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‘Jihadi John’: Islamic State killer is identified as Londoner Mohammed Emwazi

I was hoping "Jihadi John" had something to do with hookers.

No such luck.
 
Interesting graphic; why are so few fighters going to fight for ISIS from Iran?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
so it turns out this savage is yet another well to do, educated islamic, what drives these people to such barbarity? T
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Your surprised? Most terrorists are middle class, and educated individuals.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
so it turns out this savage is yet another well to do, educated islamic, what drives these people to such barbarity? To give up all they have for this "War" and oppression?


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The West was persecuting him by allowing him into their country and giving him standards of living he could only dream of in the Mid-East hellhole where he belongs/came from.
 
Fenton said:
Well in that case, he should be allowed to saw off the heads of as many " infidels " he can get a hold of.

Police allegedly mimistreated him so his actions are now justified and the Police should stand trial for the lives he's snuffed out.
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I don't think he was trying to blame the police I think he was commenting on the fact that due to insane policies we in the West allow radical Islamists to preach Dawa in the prison systems and that is where a lot of these bastards are becoming radicalized EG Jose Padilla.
 
RDS said:
Give him a break man.
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Oh I do. It wasnt the brush with the law that converted the son of a well to do brit into a sadistic ****..it was the lack of a job.
 
I'm not a psychiatrist or criminologist, but being able to cross that line and actually decapitate other human beings means the lack of something far deeper than what normal people anywhere can understand.
 
So most likely he has family still in Briton. If that had been one of my family members he beheaded I would be paying them a visit. I would be all accounts be criminally insane and not responsible for my inhumane actions therefor.
 
I've said this for years...THEY DON'T BELONG HERE.
I don't care who thinks that's racist and bigoted, the fact is it's been proven hundreds of times since 9/11 that Muslims are not like us in the West, and they are bad for our society and way of life.
In a related story, four Muslims in Brooklyn, New York are being charged today with trying to help Isis. When will we wake up and realize that Muslims will never be our friends just because we give them opportunity and a chance at a better life? They are psychotic for Allah.
 
VanceMack said:
Oh I do. It wasnt the brush with the law that converted the son of a well to do brit into a sadistic ****..it was the lack of a job.
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Well then, it's clearly Britain's fault for not providing a violent psychopath with gainful employment, is that it?
And let me remind you that the London Subway bombers from 2005 were all receiving nice welfare checks from the U.K. government, and still decided to blow up 52 British citizens, on their way to work.

We will never get anywhere with the Islamic problem by apologizing to them, just because some of them are too stupid or lazy to find a career doesn't mean that beheading journalists is a logical alternative.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
so it turns out this savage is yet another well to do, educated islamic, what drives these people to such barbarity? To give up all they have for this "War" and oppression?


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Probably pissed off at the West's military interventions in the Middle East.
 
truthatallcost said:
Well then, it's clearly Britain's fault for not providing a violent psychopath with gainful employment, is that it?
And let me remind you that the London Subway bombers from 2005 were all receiving nice welfare checks from the U.K. government, and still decided to blow up 52 British citizens, on their way to work.

We will never get anywhere with the Islamic problem by apologizing to them, just because some of them are too stupid or lazy to find a career doesn't mean that beheading journalists is a logical alternative.
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Of course. as we look across the globe at the proponents of Jihad, the ONLY thing that binds them is the economy...and NOT a fundamentalist extremist belief system. In fact, Allah Ahkbar...the slogan chanted regularly by the poor oppressed victims of upper income despots around the globe as they saw through peoples necks REALLY means "What do we want? JOBS When do we want them? NOW!" Translation is everything.
 
PoS said:
Probably pissed off at the West's military interventions in the Middle East.
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Yes of course THAT explains why sadistic assholes rape and butcher children in India, the Philippines, Pakistan...etc.
 
eohrnberger said:
Oh look! They are collecting themselves in the MW so that we can bomb and destroy them all the easier!
Much harder to root around our own countries and find them one by one.

Thanks guys!

Time to institute carpet bombing large swaths of the ISIS held territory.
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To revenge for the sake of revenge is not civilized.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Your surprised? Most terrorists are middle class, and educated individuals.
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This is odd but true. Some terrorists are actually middle class and have received high education, which I got from a 60 Minutes episode many years ago. Some of them are immigrants but they feel that they are somewhat marginalized so they don't have the same sense of belonging to the society, which leads them to become extremists.
 
idea_steed said:
To revenge for the sake of revenge is not civilized.
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Beheading innocent people isn't civilized in the least either.

Clearly, these Militant Islamic Fundamentalists pose a grave danger to those around them, as through their spreading, the world at large, both moderate Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

What more efficient mechanism to reduce their number significantly and therefore their threat? Knock them down hard enough, likely they'll be far less of a recurring problem in the future, given institutional memory.
 
idea_steed said:
This is odd but true. Some terrorists are actually middle class and have received high education, which I got from a 60 Minutes episode many years ago. Some of them are immigrants but they feel that they are somewhat marginalized so they don't have the same sense of belonging to the society, which leads them to become extremists.
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....and raping eight-year-olds, burning people alive in cages, and beheading people on youtube.

Sorry, but "marginalization" doesn't lead to such things.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
They are? you also forgot "and islamic".
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"Islamic Terrorists" falls under the category "terrorist"..


You guys need to make up your mind, it was jobs, poverty, now it's education an middle class?
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What?



"Instead of being drawn from the ranks of the poor, numerous academic and government studies find that terrorists tend to be drawn from well-educated, middle-class or high-income families. Among those who have seriously and impartially studied the issue, there is not much question that poverty has little to do with terrorism. There are many potential explanations for the common misunderstanding that terrorists are motivated to attack us because they are so desperately poor or uneducated that they have nothing to live for, or that they resent the West because it is rich or enjoys certain freedoms. At a theoretical level, economists expect people who have a low opportunity cost of time— that is, a low wage in the legitimate labor market—to turn to crime. But terrorism is different than ordinary property crime." http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i8465.pdf
 
TheDemSocialist said:
"Islamic Terrorists" falls under the category "terrorist"..




What?



"Instead of being drawn from the ranks of the poor, numerous academic and government studies find that terrorists tend to be drawn from well-educated, middle-class or high-income families. Among those who have seriously and impartially studied the issue, there is not much question that poverty has little to do with terrorism. There are many potential explanations for the common misunderstanding that terrorists are motivated to attack us because they are so desperately poor or uneducated that they have nothing to live for, or that they resent the West because it is rich or enjoys certain freedoms. At a theoretical level, economists expect people who have a low opportunity cost of time— that is, a low wage in the legitimate labor market—to turn to crime. But terrorism is different than ordinary property crime." http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i8465.pdf
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Ahh, so we can't say islamic terrorism is something that comes from uneducated being indoctrinated, but seemingly coming from a seemingly "moderate" well educated types.
 
haymarket said:
honest answer: I have suspected for a very long time that there is a deep current of bitter resentment among some in the Muslim community for the reason that they were once among the leading and most civilized people in the world and are now pretty much near the bottom of anybody outside of Africa despite sitting atop those rich oil reserves. One only needs to look at the comparative civilizations of Europe and the Middle East during the Crusades to see how far advanced the arabs were compared to many Europeans who were living in almost animalistic conditions.

I suspect they feel that they once were on top of the heap and now they are on the bottom and it just angers them to no end and causes a huge disconnect and they for somebody to blame. And who better than the new top dog they have to look up at.

thats just my two cents based on nothing but my own observations and suspicions.
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VS Naipaul, who won the Nobel Prize in literature, had exactly the same insight about Muslims. He said, "There is a passage in one of the Conrad short stories of the East Indies where the savage finds himself with his hands bare in the world, and he lets out a howl of anger. I think that, in its essence, is what is happening. The world is getting more and more out of reach of simple people who have only religion. And the more they depend on religion, which of course solves nothing, the more the world gets out of reach. The oil money in the 70's gave the illusion that power had come to the Islamic world. It was as though up there was a divine supermarket, and at last it had become open to people in the Muslim world. They didn't understand that the goods that gave them power in the end were made by another civilization. That was intolerable to accept, and it remains intolerable."
 
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