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Isis present in All 50 states, FBI director says[W:162]

Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

But, but, there is no "radical Islam" is there?

Or is "radical" now OK and only "extremist" is out?

It all gets confusing.....who is the enemy anyway? And why hasn't Obama given these young people jobs? That would stop this "radicalization" no? At least they say it will work in Iraq, or is America not ready for job creation?

Absolutely nobody has ever claimed that radical Islam doesn't exist.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

I love the extremist reaction in this thread. :lol:

Libertarians, as usual, are paranoid about some tiny little movement restriction or tiny little government size increase to their usual over-reactive degree, so they start pooh-poohing the U.S. ISIS presence with ridiculous comparisons, as if should some atrocity happen to only a mere handful of their fellow Americans at the hands of ISIS then that, that would probably be acceptable statistically.

Liberals, social liberals, especially the male social liberals, they're all aligned with the libertarians, sharing, as they do, left-wing social values that advocate extremes of freedom over any sensible security measures.

Even the economic-fiscal liberals, many being female, or femalesque, who would otherwise side with their man Obama, they're wondering a bit who's gonna pay for the stepped up security, and whose government dole might get shrunk as a consequence.

Then there's the social conservatives, and social conservatives in "libertarian-right" clothing, who are darn sure the sky is falling right now, so double-up the National Guard, Homeland Security, every defense, and oust all the Muslims.

And, as usual, the fiscal conservatives are wondering what the tax increase will be to do so.

Meanwhile, if Republicans are for stepped up security .. the Democrats are against it.

Yes, it's almost kind of fun to watch the ideologues perform accordingly on cue. :lol:

Me .. well, as a true centrist in both position and designated "lean" as used on this site, ISIS has my attention, not just because it has so many other Americans' attention, or because of the extreme atrocities they commit and distribute on social media ..

.. But because I am quite aware of just how many tens of thousands of hurting Iraqi civilians there are, and other similar situated Middle Easterners, and their sympathizers so religiously aligned throughout the world .. and in the U.S.

There's a lot of rage out there .. and it's likely to politically land somewhere where the blame is easy.

Plus I'm aware of the latest science tech in miniature nukes and chemical weapons ...

But, as a centrist, I'm pretty much taking a balanced approach on the matter.

Let's just watch and see .. and wait first for a domestic atrocity before going off half-cocked in all directions.

We're probably in a similar situation now to what Europe was experiencing in the early 1930s.

So let's just wait and see what develops.

Oh, I know some have said that some Americans have already lost their heads to ISIS .. but that's over there; it hasn't happened here yet, so it's not a real "domestic" issue.

For now, let's just neither ignore the threat or ridiculou$ly over-react to it.

Let's just put it in its proper historical perspective ..

.. And wait and see. :cool:

Right?



:roll:
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

It may be that the "stages of radicalization" obtained by the people under discussion are not the kind of stages which involve breaking a law.

oh...

so intent to murder thousands of Americans is OK.....

So belonging to a terrorist organization is not illegal in the US like every other industrialized country?

And where are the jobs? If giving radical Islamists jobs as proposed by this administration is the answer to the end of terrorism by people who look, act and pray like Muslims, how is it that there are no jobs for the thousands of young men now hell bent on killing Americans? Obama has had two years to put The Great Leap Backward into practice and hasn't...

why is that?

And meanwhile, how many of these almost criminals of people who look, act and pray like Muslims are heading here, to my country to kill us? You want an open border, but now we learn you have dangerous almost terrorist people who look, act and pray like Muslims in every state and we should what? Give them jobs too?

It may more likely be Obama and his hand picked yes men have not one ****ing clue what they're doing, and are making it up as they go along...'let's give them jobs"...

Say I know, give ISIS amnesty....they will want to stop beheading babies if they are American citizens ....
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

Absolutely nobody has ever claimed that radical Islam doesn't exist.

You don't have serious conversations so please stop harassing me. I have no time for non serious trolling and banter
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

There is no doubt about that!Obamacare: Voters, are you stupid? - CNN.com

Perhaps Los Stupidos will vote for the best candidate next time rather than voting strictly party lines or will actually educate themselves on important issues.
In fact, if you were even moderately informed, what's going on was easily predictable, and was indeed predicted.
Anyone can understand voting for this guy once but twice suggests an unfathomable depth of ignorance, dangerous to any democracy.



Whatever.

I predict that another Democrat will move into the White House in January, 2017.

Wait and see.




"Better days are coming."
But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

You don't have serious conversations so please stop harassing me. I have no time for non serious trolling and banter

Still lying about what I posted, I see.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

I wonder who is buying them all those matching Toyotas?

I assume they buy them themselves. They have plenty of money.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

so intent to murder thousands of Americans is OK.....
So belonging to a terrorist organization is not illegal in the US like every other industrialized country?
The FBI has evidence of criminal conspiracy but they are sitting on their hands?

I guess that's one possibility.

Another possibility may be the definition of the "stages of radicalization" involve stages where there are no laws are broken.

We will each have to decide for ourselves.

Is it more likely that the FBI is covering up crimes of ISIS inside the US​
OR
Is it more likely that the term "stages of radicalization" is vague and involves things which are not actually crimes.​

:shrug:
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

The FBI has evidence of criminal conspiracy but they are sitting on their hands?

I guess that's one possibility.

Another possibility may be the definition of the "stages of radicalization" involve stages where there are no laws are broken.

We will each have to decide for ourselves.

Is it more likely that the FBI is covering up crimes of ISIS inside the US​
OR
Is it more likely that the term "stages of radicalization" is vague and involves things which are not actually crimes.​

:shrug:

You have the Patriot act....hey do not need to break a law to be taken into custody and held indefinitely...


It is more likely this waste of skin bureaucrat is staring at a Republican led House and Senate and is preparing his alibis ahead of time to protect his ass and try to weasel more money out of them by making his situation far more dire than it really is. Seriously, do you think Canada's RCMP would say nothing if he had shared this information with them as he is required to do under about 40 treaties?

It's more Obama style government..image, image, image = money
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

You have the Patriot act....hey do not need to break a law to be taken into custody and held indefinitely...
It is more likely this waste of skin bureaucrat is staring at a Republican led House and Senate and is preparing his alibis ahead of time to protect his ass and try to weasel more money out of them by making his situation far more dire than it really is. Seriously, do you think Canada's RCMP would say nothing if he had shared this information with them as he is required to do under about 40 treaties?
It's more Obama style government..image, image, image = money
It's not clear to me.
Are you saying that the US actually IS full of ISIS jihadis?
Or that the FBI just bluffing for more money?

also, ftr, you are saying that you approve of indefinite detention of Americans without charges or a trial?
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

While that might be personally comforting, I think the point is that SOMEbody WILL get hit by an attack. Its the height of selfishness to be satisfied that I won't get hit and that's good enough for me.

Besides, there's more to it than just actual attacks. There is the infestation of them at all levels of society. Courts are starting to use Sharia Law, in Europe they make some neighborhood too dangerous for even cops to go into. Don't think that can't happen here too.

I might also be killed by a fly ball at a yankees game.

I might also be killed on a motorcycle

I might also be killed by drinking in the pool. . . . . . .

So you are comparing radical extremists who burn and behead and torture people to getting hit by a fly ball at a Yankee's game. I'm thinking you've probably been hit by one too many fly balls already with such a colossally stupid comparison such as that.
 
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If you cut 500 Billion over 10 years as proposed, that would be about $5,000,000,000 per year, so tell me again how can 786 billion - 5 billion = 781 billion not keep us safe next year? Then so on until 10 years is up and we are down to 286 billion, which is still more than double the defense budget of any other country on this planet. How much money do we need to spend to keep us safe? There is a probable chance my house can be robbed and me be killed by an intruder and yet I don't need to build a moat, buy machine guns, and put up spiked fences to keep me safe.

Sure, I'll tell you exactly why. Because those cuts have forced National Guard units that normally support law enforcement (border patrol, DC capitol police...etc) to shut down armories, forcing them to supporting UUAR units. This means, the federal budget for border security and for investigations slash, because now they have to contract out support.

As I said, I'm actually a member of the manpower studies, I know exactly what's being cut. Our national security.

It's hard to argue with people like you who just blatantly defend things without any knowledge. Enjoy thinking that you'll be just as safe with ATC tactical units removed from state and federal law enforcement.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

That helps my point. how can you say we "prevent islamic terrorists" from getting into the country if our borders are open?

They aren't open, they are just poorly managed.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

While that might be personally comforting, I think the pint is that SOMEbody WILL get hit by an attack. Its the height of selfishness to be satisfied that I won't get hit and that's good enough for me.

Besides, there's more to it than just actual attacks. There is the infestation of them at all levels of society. Courts are starting to use Sharia Law, in Europe they make some neighborhood to dangerous for even cops to go into. Don't think that can't happen here too.
Not only is ISIS under your bed, they're in your head.

I suspect that the anti-Islam sites you visit are the ones who put the ISIS in your head.
You're letting the terrorists win.

You speak from sheer ignorance. I don't visit such sites and I'm not scared of what's under my bed. In fact, I'm not scared of the camel screwing ragheads in the slightest. I say we blow them all back to the stone age. Its the idiots who think they don't present a danger who are the REAL danger.
 
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Sure, I'll tell you exactly why. Because those cuts have forced National Guard units that normally support law enforcement (border patrol, DC capitol police...etc) to shut down armories, forcing them to supporting UUAR units. This means, the federal budget for border security and for investigations slash, because now they have to contract out support.

As I said, I'm actually a member of the manpower studies, I know exactly what's being cut. Our national security.

It's hard to argue with people like you who just blatantly defend things. Enjoy thinking that you'll be just as safe with ATC tactical units removed from state and federal law enforcement.


I think it's wise to argue why over 750 billion dollars needs to be spent to keep us safe or do you just take what our government spends with a shrug of the shoulder? Again that's over 7 times what every single country in the world spends, are we somehow safer than them?

20 Ridiculous Ways the Government Wasted Your Money in 2013 - Mic


I am not trying to blatantly defends things such as budget cuts, what I am trying to argue is that 700 billion is a ridiculous amount to spend on defense and there is room to cut it down. You seem to be the one blatantly defending why it needs to be so big.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

I think it's wise to argue why over 750 billion dollars needs to be spent to keep us safe or do you just take what our government spends with a shrug of the shoulder? Again that's over 7 times what every single country in the world spends, are we somehow safer than them?

20 Ridiculous Ways the Government Wasted Your Money in 2013 - Mic


I am not trying to blatantly defends things such as budget cuts, what I am trying to argue is that 700 billion is a ridiculous amount to spend on defense and there is room to cut it down. You seem to be the one blatantly defending why it needs to be so big.

It might seem ridiculous to YOU now, sure. But cutting it and slashing the units I mentioned that are cut AS OF NOW (more pop up on our desks daily), in the coming years, we'll look back (well not me, because I'm smart enough to see what's happening) and say "Wow, that DEFENSE budget slash was stupid!".
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

I think it's wise to argue why over 750 billion dollars needs to be spent to keep us safe or do you just take what our government spends with a shrug of the shoulder? Again that's over 7 times what every single country in the world spends, are we somehow safer than them?

20 Ridiculous Ways the Government Wasted Your Money in 2013 - Mic


I am not trying to blatantly defends things such as budget cuts, what I am trying to argue is that 700 billion is a ridiculous amount to spend on defense and there is room to cut it down. You seem to be the one blatantly defending why it needs to be so big.

I don't even think I could cite how many lives are saved by the units I mentioned. It's too bad Obama cut them. But yea...he loves his country...

They provide intelligence to MANY LEO and Fed agencies...along with manpower and REA support.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

It's not clear to me.
Are you saying that the US actually IS full of ISIS jihadis?
Or that the FBI just bluffing for more money?

also, ftr, you are saying that you approve of indefinite detention of Americans without charges or a trial?

Now where do you draw any of that?

Is it because progressives see everything through a single lens of for or against?

I am saying the head of the FBI SAYS there are terrorist threats in every state. Based on the incredibly shallow dealings of the Obama administration, anything coming out of the White House is suspect. If there are terrorists then this guy is possibly negligent and has allowed innocents to come in harms way, if not he is exaggerating like everyone else Obama has chosen to work for him.

Please carefully review what I have said, stop putting words in my mouth and stay with the actual debate.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

So you are comparing radical extremists who burn and behead and torture people to getting hit by a fly ball at a Yankee's game. I'm thinking you've probably been hit by one too many fly balls already with such a colossally stupid comparison such as that.


I'm pointing out, chicken little, that the terrorist bogeymen aren't everywhere as the federalis want you to believe. They depend on a scared public who can't think rationally to further thier statist power centralization agenda.

You buy it hook line and sinker.


And I'm the one who actually lost friends and family in a terrorist attack. Go figger.
 
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... I'm not scared of what's under my bed. In fact, I'm not scared of the camel screwing ragheads in the slightest.
We have established that the Da'ish are indeed under your bed.

But they're not actually.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

Please carefully review what I have said, stop putting words in my mouth and stay with the actual debate.
I apologize so hard for asking you to clarify your position.
Thoughtless of me, really.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

Absolutely nobody has ever claimed that radical Islam doesn't exist.
It's actual the mouthing of the words that appears to be the problem.
 
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