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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    And I am calling him a closet Nazi. For his comments: Nationalism, deal with it. There are American nationalists, that's a thing.



    1? Rangers, Delta, and Green Berets were formed to mimic units the British created. Even CIA is models after MI6. That's be true if it wasn't for the fact the model for Delta Force for selection has been identical to SAS selection since the 70s. They still on a yearly basis have an exchange program where both sides sees what others are doing.




    LOL!!!!

    Budget size doesn't matter in reality. On the ground they aren't saying "well they cut our budget or our budget is smaller we should just pack up and go home". Bigger military pool (people) but SAS is the most selective Special Operations unit in the world. They will cut you just for just one mistake, they gave a perfection or not at all attitude... and had a big issue with the US Navy Seals (ST6) failure in rescuing Linda Norgrove because the Seal who tossed the nade that killed her had done it previously in other missions.

    If you think SAS hasn't be 100% active during the same period you are crazy. SAS was tasked with some of the most dangerous ops during Iraq and Afghanistan because of their ability. Stanley McChrystal and David Patraeus said the same stuff. SAS itself has been active all over the world for a better part of 75 years. Be it WW2, Malayan Emergency, Indonesia–Malaysia confrontation, Dhofar Rebellion (Battle of Mirbat), Northern Ireland which was 30 years of a **** storm, Sierra Leone (recuse of British peace keepers), then all NATO related operations.

    So you want to talk about advantages? SAS has 75 years of it.
    Budget size does matter. On the ground they masy ot be complaining of budget cuts, but they'll be complaining that the Americans got all the good gadgets.

    Also, that's funny, if the SAS were better why did they fail to capture Bin Laden while Seal team 6, the oh so bad baddies killed the ****er in his friend's house?
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Listen to me. People still elect morons who make us go to war
    Not an Edwin Starr fan I assume. Those are lyrics from the song War.
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I would, and I'd also cut all the lefty entitlements and handouts I could.
    You know many of these "handouts" benefit veterans during the war?


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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    We arent quite there yet, but if it was only lefty media we would be.
    Oh we're there already, and have been for years.

    The difference is that our media is owned by complicit corporations that act on the government's behalf. Remember, like when the Bush administration asked the NYT to not publish the information gained by James Risen? And NYT happily went along? Just long enough for Dubya to be re-elected?

    Yes, there are many other examples clearly demonstrating the unholy alliance between the government and the Fourth Estate. Many examples of "journalists" sending stories to various agencies of the government prior to publication so that the government can approve or disapprove of the story.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Oh we're there already, and have been for years.

    The difference is that our media is owned by complicit corporations that act on the government's behalf. Remember, like when the Bush administration asked the NYT to not publish the information gained by James Risen? And NYT happily went along? Just long enough for Dubya to be re-elected?

    Yes, there are many other examples clearly demonstrating the unholy alliance between the government and the Fourth Estate. Many examples of "journalists" sending stories to various agencies of the government prior to publication so that the government can approve or disapprove of the story.
    I know I know. Wouldn't it be so much better for us if our media was state controlled like Russia's

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I know I know. Wouldn't it be so much better for us if our media was state controlled like Russia's
    The point is that IT IS controlled by the state, already. Sure, it's behind the scenes so the average American has not a clue about it, but that doesn't change that our mainstream media is essentially a propaganda outlet for government messages.

    Should we revert to a model like BBC and its state control? I don't know.

    Voice of America has been broadcasting for years, so we already have the equivalent of RT or BBC.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    The point is that IT IS controlled by the state, already. Sure, it's behind the scenes so the average American has not a clue about it, but that doesn't change that our mainstream media is essentially a propaganda outlet for government messages.

    Should we revert to a model like BBC and its state control? I don't know.

    Voice of America has been broadcasting for years, so we already have the equivalent of RT or BBC.
    There is a vast gulf between our press freedoms and Russia's as a 10 minute look at RT the hysterical Russian state sponsored TV mouthpiece will confirm.

    We don't tend to kill our journalists when they question state policy either

    List of journalists killed in Russia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    There is a vast gulf between our press freedoms and Russia's as a 10 minute look at RT the hysterical Russian state sponsored TV mouthpiece will confirm.

    We don't tend to kill our journalists when they question state policy either

    List of journalists killed in Russia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Holy Cow, I guess I should be vewwy scared, eh? Those nasty mean Russians.

    No, we don't kill our journalists, we just imprison them. We just listen in on their phone calls and read their emails.

    OMG, I am so afraid of those mean Russians.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Holy Cow, I guess I should be vewwy scared, eh? Those nasty mean Russians.

    No, we don't kill our journalists, we just imprison them. We just listen in on their phone calls and read their emails.

    OMG, I am so afraid of those mean Russians.
    And so you should be. They have a despot at the helm and are rearming hand over fist while the West dithers over its armed aggression. This new Russia is the greatest threat we face in the world today and we ignore or dismiss it at our peril. Forget ISIS they don't have the megatonnage.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    I'm so glad you approve of my fear, Flogger!

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