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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i'm willing to pay more in taxes to fund single payer health insurance.

    so, what does funding a continuous state of war look like? which marginal rates will go up, and by how much?
    Everyone will have to pay something, comrade. Well those of us who actually do pay taxes.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    You mean closet Nazis..

    Fun fact, United States best of the best (special operations), learned everything from British SAS. US special operation will never be better then them.
    No I highly doubt he means Nazis.

    And to say that because 1 of our SOF elements was based in a Brittish design means that we can never be better than them is just pretty dumb. And they while we did learn from them originally that was a long time ago and not really relevant to how things are done now.

    Look at it this way.
    Not only does our SOF have a bigger budget which leads to better equipment and training funds, we also have a much bigger military pool to pull from allowing us to be more selective. We have also had been at war non-stop since 2001 gaining experience and validating and modifying tactics. That is a almost impossible advantage to beat.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    So what do you propose be done other than complaining about Obama?
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    Terrible idea.

    The Ukranian conflict is a direct result of NATO thinking that Russia couldn't do anything about Ukraine wanting to join the West. Russia wants, and will fight hard, to keep buffer states between her and the West. It's entirely reasonable policy on her part.

    For actual enlightenment on this, you may want to read below...from my favorite foreign affairs expert (who nailed the Iraq war, incidentally) John Mearscheimer. Not liberal or conservative- but definitely an anti neo-con.

    http://m.foreignaffairs.com/articles...he-wests-fault
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Everyone will have to pay something, comrade. Well those of us who actually do pay taxes.
    so you support raising taxes to fund the war?

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    so you support raising taxes to fund the war?
    I support fighting the war and paying our debts.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I support fighting the war and paying our debts.
    "If fighting the war and paying our debts" had to come with a incredibly drastic tax increase, would you support that?


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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    "If fighting the war and paying our debts" had to come with a incredibly drastic tax increase, would you support that?
    I would, and I'd also cut all the lefty entitlements and handouts I could.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Elaborate on "best of the best."

    Delta force? SEALS (who I thought get trained in Israel/with Israelis...)? Rangers?

    Spec ops are a small facet of the larger picture. Even if the SAS were better, the British military is vastly inferior to that of the USA's military.
    Best of the Best meaning SAS are the ones that Delta Force and Navy Seals (including DevGru) learn from and were born from. Delta is a more complete unit since most of their guys come from Rangers and Green Berets. Seals/ST6 on the other hand are very limited in their abilities. Seals aren't trained from the start in basic infantrymen tactics so when SHTF.. they could never turn from "operator to grunt" when it called for.

    Delta is pretty close to SAS standards but not better then them.

    Special Operations is a huge facet of the modern military. Long gone are the days of Division size units deploying. Brigade or smaller is the future. Inferior? I never said the whole British Army is better. Just what society deems best of bunch.
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    War. Good God, y'all. What is it good for? Absolutely nothing.

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