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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I agree. That is why he must be compelled.
    At all costs! No, I think not. Nothing he's doing is worth outright or proxy war. Life is too precious, more so,than real-estate .
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    At all costs! No, I think not. Nothing he's doing is worth outright or proxy war. Life is too precious, more so,than real-estate .
    It won't come to that. In gaining their own freedom the Ukrainians will help us all.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It won't come to that. In gaining their own freedom the Ukrainians will help us all.
    All that certainly remains to be seen.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Not at all. I think that Russia should honor any agreements that they sign. However, you and I disagree that Russia's responses in Ukraine are breeches of those agreements, see?
    And you are wrong of course as has been highlighted multiple times now. At the time this alleged 'verbal' agreement was made with the west where was the reciprocal agreement by Russia not to attempt to invade or annex its neighbours ? Oh thats right she had already signed multiple agreements to that effect hadn't she ?

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    And you are wrong of course as has been highlighted multiple times now. At the time this alleged 'verbal' agreement was made with the west where was the reciprocal agreement by Russia not to attempt to invade or annex its neighbours ? Oh thats right she had already signed multiple agreements to that effect hadn't she ?
    It doesn't matter how many times you mischaracterize Putin's response to Western intrigue in Kiev the fall of 2013, he's not listening.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It doesn't matter how many times you mischaracterize Putin's response to Western intrigue in Kiev the fall of 2013, he's not listening.
    No its you thats not listening nor do you want to. You are here to preach the Kremlin gospel nothing more

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    No its you thats not listening nor do you want to. You are here to preach the Kremlin gospel nothing more
    What are you, about 5'5", lol?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What are you, about 5'5", lol?
    You are just here to beat up on the US in any way you think you can get away with. You don't really care about the culpability of the actual protagonists

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Not only do I remember it - I more or less lived it. My dad was stationed at a SAC base in North Dakota and I went to sleep at night listening to the B-52's orbiting the base, waiting for the go signal.
    It's much cheaper and safer to have aircraft secure on the ground, fueled with crews on standby, waiting for the go signal, than to have them burning tons of fuel, orbiting.

    So you acknowledge the larger point, that the US felt very threatened by the presence of Soviet hardware and advisors 90 miles off the Florida coast, and defended the Monroe Doctrine.

    Raising the question, "why should the Russians today not feel similarly threatened by the presence of US hardware in their backyard?"

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    It's much cheaper and safer to have aircraft secure on the ground, fueled with crews on standby, waiting for the go signal, than to have them burning tons of fuel, orbiting.

    So you acknowledge the larger point, that the US felt very threatened by the presence of Soviet hardware and advisors 90 miles off the Florida coast, and defended the Monroe Doctrine.

    Raising the question, "why should the Russians today not feel similarly threatened by the presence of US hardware in their backyard?"
    Nothing on Cuba was threatening except the missiles. Once those were gone, Cuba became a ho-hum situation, easily countered with forces based in Florida.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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