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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    If that is indeed true how does that justify what Russia is doing ? There have been 5000+ Ukrainian deaths to date and to the best of my knowledge NATO has been responsible for none of them
    Never said it's justified.

    I just said it's expected.

    And if you don't want it to happen, don't tease Ukraine with a possibility of joining the EU or NATO.
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    then the EU should have serious discussions with Russia and get it figured out. a proxy war with the US isn't going to help.
    Russia does not want a solution. Russia wants to break Ukraine, cow the EU and destroy NATO.
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Russia does not want a solution. Russia wants to break Ukraine, cow the EU and destroy NATO.
    Greetings, Jack.

    Does Russia provide oil and gas to the EU countries?

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Jack.

    Does Russia provide oil and gas to the EU countries?
    I believe so in normal times, but I'm not sure of the impact of sanctions.
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Russia does not want a solution. Russia wants to break Ukraine, cow the EU and destroy NATO.
    then it looks like the EU needs to address that. meanwhile, we have a country that needs to be upgraded to meet the competitive demands of the 21st century.

    for too long, neoconservatives have dictated our foreign policy. while citing the founding fathers incessantly, they seem to completely ignore the warnings Washington gave us as he left office. how do you feel about that, Jack? was Washington incorrect? if so, what else was he incorrect about?

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Jack.

    Does Russia provide oil and gas to the EU countries?

    hi, polgara. hope that you are well. here is what i found regarding your question :

    Russia in the European energy sector - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    then it looks like the EU needs to address that. meanwhile, we have a country that needs to be upgraded to meet the competitive demands of the 21st century.

    for too long, neoconservatives have dictated our foreign policy. while citing the founding fathers incessantly, they seem to completely ignore the warnings Washington gave us as he left office. how do you feel about that, Jack? was Washington incorrect? if so, what else was he incorrect about?
    Times change. Washington was a slave owner too. We can revere the man without mindlessly aping everything he said or did. The world would be a far more dangerous place for the US if we did as you advocate.
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Times change. Washington was a slave owner too. We can revere the man without mindlessly aping everything he said or did. The world would be a far more dangerous place for the US if we did as you advocate.
    so, basically, whatever the founders said that fits your political worldview is relevant, while the inconvenient parts are not.

    you should think about that one for a while. could it be that endless interventionism might not be the panacea that you are promoting it as?

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    so, basically, whatever the founders said that fits your political worldview is relevant, while the inconvenient parts are not.

    you should think about that one for a while. could it be that endless interventionism might not be the panacea that you are promoting it as?
    I haven't cited any of the founders except for one rhetorical flourish. As I posted earlier: hard money, strong defense, individual liberty.
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Jack.

    Does Russia provide oil and gas to the EU countries?
    For now, but new lines of gas supply are opening, including from Israel.
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