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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Strong defense allows us to send the kids to school.

    I've never been a neoconservative myself, although I admire the courage of their intellectual journey from the far left. I also applaud their history of leadership on social causes. Nonetheless, I'm just an old-fashioned American: hard money, strong defense, individual liberty.
    participation in every global conflict is not necessary for strong defense. many conflicts need to be handled by regional hegemons.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Right. But the whole point is that the West enabled that by pretending that EU/NATO partnership might be a reality.

    We screwed them over with false hope.
    If that is indeed true how does that justify what Russia is doing ? There have been 5000+ Ukrainian deaths to date and to the best of my knowledge NATO has been responsible for none of them

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    participation in every global conflict is not necessary for strong defense. many conflicts need to be handled by regional hegemons.
    That is already happening.
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    That is already happening.
    really? so the EU will be handling Ukraine, and Saudi Arabia and Iran will be handling IS without our help? that's news to me.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    really? so the EU will be handling Ukraine, and Saudi Arabia and Iran will be handling IS without our help? that's news to me.
    No, but China is handling Tibet, and Israel is handling Gaza/Palestine.
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    No, but China is handling Tibet, and Israel is handling Gaza/Palestine.
    yet we're not invading China, nor are you advocating for us to arm the rebels there or to fight a proxy war with China.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    yet we're not invading China, nor are you advocating for us to arm the rebels there or to fight a proxy war with China.
    No, because we can't be everywhere, and some bridges are too far.
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    No, because we can't be everywhere, and some bridges are too far.
    yeah, no ****.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    yeah, no ****.
    Ukraine is a viable state with a real possibility to defend its freedom and independence. Worth helping. Tibet is a heartbreaking cause, but they have no chance.
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Ukraine is a viable state with a real possibility to defend its freedom and independence. Worth helping. Tibet is a heartbreaking cause, but they have no chance.
    then the EU should have serious discussions with Russia and get it figured out. a proxy war with the US isn't going to help.

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