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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    They'll dismiss this. They know more than the credentialed senior fellows at the CFR!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i want us out of all of it. if the world wants an army, it should build and fund one.



    bring them all home.



    bring them home. it's time to nation build here.



    that stupid ****ing pipeline should have been traded for something else, but our politicians are politically inept idiots who refuse to compromise. ****, i would have supported trading it for everyone finally shutting the **** up about it. the oil is going to get processed anyway. give the right their precious ****ing pipeline, and trade it for wind farm subsidies or something. that's how Washington used to work.



    Saudi Arabia is the regional hegemon, and Iraq is their responsibility to sort out. we have our own country to worry about, and we need to get out of the war business.
    Bring them all home repeated several times does not equal a response to my points. You started 'em....we, as in your best friend are getting tired of sending our boys in to help and hear guys like you bleat "no one helps us..."
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    True enough. And not just that, even in the event of US victory. Taking on Russia looks NOTHING like taking on Hussein or Gaddafi. The cost would be huge. And, unnecessary!! All the comparisons between Putin and Hitler, Nazis and the 1930's is total bull****.

    How Russian military might is eroding the Western alliance
    October 3, 2014 Rakesh Krishnan Simha
    Backed by a resurgent military, Russia’s high-octane foreign policy is exposing the limits of US adventurism and in the process weakening the western alliance.

    How Russian military might is eroding the Western alliance | Russia & India Report
    it's their go to. if you don't support US involvement in every single war on the planet, you want hitler to win. however, it has to be the right hitler. right now, boko haram and kim jong un are the wrong hitlers.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Bring them all home repeated several times does not equal a response to my points. You started 'em....we, as in your best friend are getting tired of sending our boys in to help and hear guys like you bleat "no one helps us..."
    i want to bring home Canadians, as well. if we bring all of them home, maybe then we can afford a sane health care system like yours, and to send our kids to college instead.

    we need to get out of the war business. if the world wants an army, it needs to build it and fund it.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i want to bring home Canadians, as well. if we bring all of them home, maybe then we can afford a sane health care system like yours, and to send our kids to college instead.
    ...for..... about thirty seconds.


    then regional hegemons rush to fill the vacuum and our economies ( which are utterly dependent upon unfettered global trade ) collapse and we can't afford F'ing anything .

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Ukraine is not our neighbor, and a proxy war with Russia is much more serious than a small fire in the neighbor's yard. but you already knew that.
    What do we care what Putin does in his own back yard?

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Bring them all home repeated several times does not equal a response to my points. You started 'em....we, as in your best friend are getting tired of sending our boys in to help and hear guys like you bleat "no one helps us..."
    Not all Americans have forgotten our allies. Even though we dont always agree they have stuck by us.

    I think Helix is more concerned with how he can extract the income of others for his personal gain, I find that short sighted.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    no, a war with Russia is definitely not the right thing for the US to do.
    We will not be at war with Russia. Russia has invaded Ukraine, and the Ukrainians will defend their independence and freedom. We will help them, as free people do when facing aggression.
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    Unfortunately NATO troops arenít supporting or fortifying these former USSR countries in an effort to protect their fledgling democracies from KGB Chief and Russian dictator Vladimir Putin. Iím willing to bet that Ukraine and several former Soviet countries will be annexed into Russia before Obama leaves office.

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Ah. The West caused the crisis by encouraging the spread of democracy, and the Ukrainians contributed by seeking democracy and freedom.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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