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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    The link was to show how Poland was chopped up to its expansion and back to chopped up and so on over the centuries.
    No more, no less than that.
    The misfortune of Poland's location has been demonstrated again and again.
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Why have one?

    I say, Teddy would be rolling in his grave were he alive today. I know you think he was the first to exceed presidential powers, but I suspect the likes of Putin would have been humble in his presence, to which I say "bully!"

    And, not just the world's "unsavory" characters....all of them. I suspect Harper has a good read on Obama. There is still a score to settle there.
    I think part of the problem is many can read him, but our trusted allies can not.
    It used to be a good thing to have a powerful friend, not so much these days.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I know this is hard for a lefty to understand, but sometime you just have to stop worrying about how you can extract wealth from others and fight.
    so buy a plane ticket and go join the fight. the rest of us are sick to death of an endless state of unfunded and undeclared war.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The Russians are likely going to keep Crimea, but they cannot be allowed to destroy a Ukrainian government that seeks only self-determination and a western orientation.
    then perhaps Europe should back them up if they want a proxy war with Russia.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    then perhaps Europe should back them up if they want a proxy war with Russia.
    There is no Europe without the US. That is the fundamental point of NATO. Severing the Europe-US link is a strategic objective for Putin.
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Who asked the CIA to back rebels against the elected government in Ukraine?

    The US gets sucked in my ass....

    With armies across the globe, a spy network that couldn't see either the fall of the Berlin Wall nor 911 you have your fingers in every pie. And when you **** up, as Obama has done, you risk the lives of Americans as well as allies.
    i want us out of all of it. if the world wants an army, it should build and fund one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    The US was not alone in either Afghanistan nor Iraq, and yet you bleat this garbage about standing alone. It is an insult to the men and women of other countries, Canadians, British, Pole etc. to moan this crap. Canada took the highest rate of casualties in Kandahar, we are on the ground in Iraq and pushing harder against Putin than you are, adding new sanctions weekly. And our troops remain there in non combatant rolls years after our agreed mission had ended.
    bring them all home.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    You haven't 'handled' ****. It was French, Canadian and British jets flying missions with you over Libya and look what you have as a result? You can't even bring to justice the assassins of your servicemen. And now after allies helped you, there is a greater, more dangerous threat. Any nation would gladly follow that path....
    bring them home. it's time to nation build here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Your president lies about pipelines and complains he doesn't want "Canadian oil" on his land, and you expect us to elope with you again? We have thousands of miles of American pipeline feeding you but u-uh, but "oh, could you spare some lives...we have another war..?"
    that stupid ****ing pipeline should have been traded for something else, but our politicians are politically inept idiots who refuse to compromise. ****, i would have supported trading it for everyone finally shutting the **** up about it. the oil is going to get processed anyway. give the right their precious ****ing pipeline, and trade it for wind farm subsidies or something. that's how Washington used to work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    How about you finish one, say Iraq, before flexing muscles where you have been specifically warned not to.
    Saudi Arabia is the regional hegemon, and Iraq is their responsibility to sort out. we have our own country to worry about, and we need to get out of the war business.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    so buy a plane ticket and go join the fight. the rest of us are sick to death of an endless state of unfunded and undeclared war.
    I didn't realize you spoke for "the rest of us". When did you obtain that power, comrade?

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    There is no Europe without the US. That is the fundamental point of NATO. Severing the Europe-US link is a strategic objective for Putin.
    there is certainly a Europe without the US, but i'm not advocating severing ties. i'm advocating getting out of the war business. we've been in a constant state of war for long enough. it's time to try something else.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    So you're tearing up NATO?

    Great strategy, surrender before a shot because they can punch back....
    Did I miss something? Is the Ukraine a NATO member?

    Because since it's not, NATO shouldn't be involved.
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i want us out of all of it. if the world wants an army, it should build and fund one.



    bring them all home.
    Might as well be advocating for unicorns. Your marxist distortions may have to wait, comrade.

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