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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Oh noes an ultimatum! I already answered that. And then you muttered about taxes about 50 times.
    refresh my memory. what is the plan for war with Russia, how far are you willing to go to win it, and what does the aftermath look like?

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    There will be no war. Russia is too weak.
    i agree that there will be no war, because it would **** up pretty much everything. and Russia weak? lol. they are a nuclear superpower, which is another reason that there will be no war. however, hawks like to talk big online, so let's hear USC's war strategy.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i agree that there will be no war, because it would **** up pretty much everything. and Russia weak? lol. they are a nuclear superpower, which is another reason that there will be no war. however, hawks like to talk big online, so let's hear USC's war strategy.
    We reinforce our NATO deployments, step up joint exercises, and open up the weapons and training flow to Ukraine. Beneath the veneer of top tier forces Russian military capabilities are feeble, with significant supply, logistics, training and maintenance shortfalls. Readiness is abysmal.
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    We reinforce our NATO deployments, step up joint exercises, and open up the weapons and training flow to Ukraine. Beneath the veneer of top tier forces Russian military capabilities are feeble, with significant supply, logistics, training and maintenance shortfalls. Readiness is abysmal.
    do you really think that a limited proxy war will stop Russia from doing whatever it wants in Ukraine?

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    do you really think that a limited proxy war will stop Russia from doing whatever it wants in Ukraine?
    Yes, because the Ukrainians will fight like hell on their own behalf.
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Yes, because the Ukrainians will fight like hell on their own behalf.
    against a nuclear superpower. right. no way we can arm a country that small enough to defeat a country that big in no holds barred warfare. and it's Europe's job to do that even if it was possible.

    here's how it stands. Russia is going to control whatever areas it wants in Ukraine, nothing short of all out war is going to stop it, and all out war isn't going to happen.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    And Harper is also playing to a large Ukrainian population.
    CBC, leans left, G&M, sort of middle, I find more opposing views - for and against in the National Post.
    And I like to read from the Was Po NYT to Al Jazerra to the Asia Times to BBC.
    From these you can sometimes glean what the heck is going on.
    That's pretty much where I go, although I have reduced much of my time with the National Post and have grudgingly come to respect the Glop and Pail. I used to work for the KW Record and then the Hamilton Spectator and the Globe was always the paper you resented.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    against a nuclear superpower. right. no way we can arm a country that small enough to defeat a country that big in no holds barred warfare. and it's Europe's job to do that even if it was possible.

    here's how it stands. Russia is going to control whatever areas it wants in Ukraine, nothing short of all out war is going to stop it, and all out war isn't going to happen.
    Thank you Marshal Petain. The US is a NATO signatory, and therefore a full partner in European security. There is no "Europe's job" without the US. Let the Russians get a taste of first class anti-tank and counter-battery artillery and we'll see how "all-out" they want to be.
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    against a nuclear superpower. right. no way we can arm a country that small enough to defeat a country that big in no holds barred warfare. and it's Europe's job to do that even if it was possible.

    here's how it stands. Russia is going to control whatever areas it wants in Ukraine, nothing short of all out war is going to stop it, and all out war isn't going to happen.
    Russia isn't in Ukraine, remember?

    And do you really think they are going to use nukes and turn the entirety of world opinion against them?

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    against a nuclear superpower. right. no way we can arm a country that small enough to defeat a country that big in no holds barred warfare. and it's Europe's job to do that even if it was possible.

    here's how it stands. Russia is going to control whatever areas it wants in Ukraine, nothing short of all out war is going to stop it, and all out war isn't going to happen.
    So you're tearing up NATO?

    Great strategy, surrender before a shot because they can punch back....
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