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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Thanks for the sites.

    I know what Russians think of Crimea...and Ukraine. Here, a spokesman for the Russian government compared Ukraine to Canada and our relationship with the US, and said what the US had done in Kyev was much like Russia trying to convert Canada, and said if they had secret agents in Ottawa, the US would not hesitate to invade. Many Canadians agree.
    I was not throwing anything about your knowledge at you. I figured you were up on the history. Others are not.
    With a history of being part of Russia, it was a sore point when the Crimea was transferred to the Ukraine in 54.
    Ukraine is a buffer for the Russians and NATO.
    Eventually some sort of loose Federation may emerge. Who knows at this point.
    But it is not in western interests to arm Ukraine. It is pure folly to do that.
    Resources should be for significant trip wires in the Baltic's, Hungary, Romania & Poland for one.
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Weve been places longer-thats the commitment required. Your type was fine appeasing hitler and stalin, mine was not. Courage man-show some.
    ah, hitler again, the go to for hawks.

    so, is boko haram hitler? is kim jong un hitler? why aren't we going to war with those hitlers?

    way to Godwin, BTW. unfortunately, someone already did that before you.

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    And as for radical groups-its all about cost and benefit-make it cost more and they will see the light or perish.

    Is there no threat you wont surrender to?
    i won't surrender to hawks who can't be bothered to read about the history of empires and apply that knowledge to the foreign policy that they promote.

    so, once again, what's the plan?

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    There are many Mexicans and Mexican-Americans and liberals here that think California is Mexico.
    Should we hand it over?
    Now are you being funny?
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    We "talked" with Cuba, they made it clear they aren't going to change. All Obama did was allow more money to flow to totalitarian freaks. The people of Cuba wont see one dime.

    Your ideology in action, being "smart" of course.
    so, should we invade them, too?

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    We "talked" with Cuba, they made it clear they aren't going to change. All Obama did was allow more money to flow to totalitarian freaks. The people of Cuba wont see one dime.

    Your ideology in action, being "smart" of course.
    How about Nixon's opening up China and now it is fast approaching as a significant threat to to US power in Asia.
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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    ah, hitler again, the go to for hawks.

    so, is boko haram hitler? is kim jong un hitler? why aren't we going to war with those hitlers?

    way to Godwin, BTW. unfortunately, someone already did that before you.



    i won't surrender to hawks who can't be bothered to read about the history of empires and apply that knowledge to the foreign policy that they promote.

    so, once again, what's the plan?
    Since we dont have infinite resources, we start with the biggest threats. Currently those are ISIS and Russia-the biggest hot spots.
    And yes they are "hitler" in that they are evil totalitarians who wont be appeased.

    What empire are you referring to? If we were an empire Iraq would have been about the oil that we left there. And we certainly dont want to colonize either Russia or Ukraine.

    I think our policy has essentially been trade with us, and dont attack us. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Now are you being funny?
    Im not. They really believe that. They even learn that in schools south of the border.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    so, should we invade them, too?
    Reference my post on hot spots.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    How about Nixon's opening up China and now it is fast approaching as a significant threat to to US power in Asia.
    That is another threat, though more so to our proxies South Korea and Japan. But its a bit further down the priority list.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    I was not throwing anything about your knowledge at you. I figured you were up on the history. Others are not.
    With a history of being part of Russia, it was a sore point when the Crimea was transferred to the Ukraine in 54.
    Ukraine is a buffer for the Russians and NATO.
    Eventually some sort of loose Federation may emerge. Who knows at this point.
    But it is not in western interests to arm Ukraine. It is pure folly to do that.
    Resources should be for significant trip wires in the Baltic's, Hungary, Romania & Poland for one.
    i didn't mean to suggest I felt lectured, only bragging on myself I guess. The whole picture here is different. Not sure if I can put my finger on it but there is far more interest and far more pressure for a diplomatic solution. Stephen Harper's numbers rose 5% after he told Putin "get out of Ukraine" at the last G-8.

    We get a lot more news about what Germany and Poland are saying. Here the US involvement is not even covered if there is any, you wouldn't know from the reporting and I seriously doubt CBC would ignore it if there was US activity.

    I do know that the large Ukrainian population here cheered Washington when Kyev fell, they wanted Ukraine and Crimea in western control.
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