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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    How much does war cost ? Who cares as long as its necessary and as long as its won. Did the US or UK know how much WW2 was going to cost them and if they had would it have made a difference ?
    so, again, which wars do you consider to be the equivalent of WWII? and do you support a return to the tax rates which funded that war? i need specifics here, or i am going to stop wasting my time discussing this with you.

    here are the tax rates during WWII :

    Historical Top Tax Rates and Wartime Reality Check

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    so, again, which wars do you consider to be the equivalent of WWII? and do you support a return to the tax rates which funded that war? i need specifics here, or i am going to stop wasting my time discussing this with you.

    here are the tax rates during WWII :

    Historical Top Tax Rates and Wartime Reality Check
    I don't really care about taxes frankly. If a war has to be fought for the preservation of my way of life I'll pay them. If it doesn't I won't. I cannot put a specific dollar sign above it because nobody can

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I don't really care about taxes frankly. If a war has to be fought for the preservation of my way of life I'll pay them. If it doesn't I won't. I cannot put a specific dollar sign above it because nobody can

    ok, we've established that you are fine with significant tax increases to pay for an endless state of war and the occupation that will follow. i assume that you support equal participation by Europe in this all out, multi front world war? next, we can choose fronts and strategy.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    ok, we've established that you are fine with significant tax increases to pay for an endless state of war and the occupation that will follow.
    That is not what I said

    i assume that you support equal participation by Europe in this all out, multi front world war? next, we can choose fronts and strategy.
    Europe will have no choice but to participate as most likely it will be the front line

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    That is not what I said
    then be more specific. how much are you willing to pay for a constant state of war and the occupation that will follow?

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Europe will have no choice but to participate as most likely it will be the front line
    which brings us to fronts. the troublesome areas of the world include the Middle East, Africa, North Korea, and Ukraine. on which of these fronts do you support gloves off, boots on the ground war? also, what does that look like?

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    then be more specific. how much are you willing to pay for a constant state of war and the occupation that will follow?
    I'm prepared to pay any price necessary in order to defend my country or my allies. Is that clear enough ?

    which brings us to fronts. the troublesome areas of the world include the Middle East, Africa, North Korea, and Ukraine. on which of these fronts do you support gloves off, boots on the ground war? also, what does that look like?
    I couldn't care less about the middle east or other far flung theaters. The middle east in particular is a rod the US has made for its own back because of the religious right and support for zionism. I want no part in that

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I'm prepared to pay any price necessary in order to defend my country or my allies. Is that clear enough ?
    ok, so significant tax increases, like i said the first time.

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I couldn't care less about the middle east or other far flung theaters. The middle east in particular is a rod the US has made for its own back because of the religious right and support for zionism. I want no part in that
    just Ukraine, then? what does that look like? because from this angle, it looks like war with Russia.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    ok, so significant tax increases, like i said the first time.
    If its necessary .

    just Ukraine, then? what does that look like? because from this angle, it looks like war with Russia.
    I hope it won't come to that, but sadly I think it might. We need to rearm fast and that costs money

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    If its necessary .



    I hope it won't come to that, but sadly I think it might. We need to rearm fast and that costs money
    how do you see a hot war with Russia playing out? do you think they'll keep the kid gloves on?

    and let's say that one side somehow manages to win. what does the post war world look like, in your opinion?

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    how do you see a hot war with Russia playing out? do you think they'll keep the kid gloves on?
    Not well. But if we don't rebuild our conventional military it will go to mushrooms sooner rather than later

    and let's say that one side somehow manages to win. what does the post war world look like, in your opinion?
    Its not our side thats pulling the strings on this its just one mans ego. Do you think Europeans actually want to countenance this bleak future ?

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