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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    No. You stated they "earned it". Then you falsely accused me of "loving big govt till it comes to the military".


    What kind of "handouts"? When are you going to return your "handouts"?
    Im a producer, never got handouts, never qualified for them, and wouldn't have taken them if I could.
    No housing assistance, food stamps, tuition assistance, etc. I actually pay taxes.

    I put myself through school, paid my way (sometimes by earning scholarships), and have been continuously employed since I was 16.
    I also decided to learn skills that are in high demand and pay well, and Im not done yet.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Im a producer, never got handouts, never qualified for them, and wouldn't have taken them if I could.
    No housing assistance, food stamps, tuition assistance, etc. I actually pay taxes.
    Really? Medicare? Roads? Public schools? Post office? Unemployment? I find this hard to believe.

    I put myself through school, paid my way (sometimes by earning scholarships), and have been continuously employed since I was 16.
    You paid your own way through a private high school?

    I also decided to learn skills that are in high demand and pay well, and Im not done yet.
    Good for you. Wish you the best of luck in the future. But I kinda doubt that you have "never got handouts"....


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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Really? Medicare? Roads? Public schools? Post office? Unemployment? I find this hard to believe.


    You paid your own way through a private high school?


    Good for you. Wish you the best of luck in the future. But I kinda doubt that you have "never got handouts"....
    I paid for those roads, and I still do. And judging by who actually pays taxes in this nation, I pay more than most. My parents paid taxes to fund the public high school I went to.

    And I will pay (public or private) for my children when/if I have them.

    Unlike you lefties, Im not entitled and dont want or need freebies.

    I know its hard for you to believe-but people like me exist.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I paid for those roads, and I still do. And judging by who actually pays taxes in this nation, I pay more than most. My parents paid taxes to fund the public high school I went to.
    Ohhhh... Sooo I get it... Its the, "its not a handout if I use it" argument... Im sorry but even the impoverished pay taxes...


    And I will pay (public or private) for my children when/if I have them.
    Good for you. So will many others.


    Unlike you lefties, Im not entitled and dont want or need freebies.
    Please give back your social security then.


    I know its hard for you to believe-but people like me exist.
    No they dont exist. Because all of use take "handouts".


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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Ohhhh... Sooo I get it... Its the, "its not a handout if I use it" argument... Im sorry but even the impoverished pay taxes...



    Good for you. So will many others.



    Please give back your social security then.



    No they dont exist. Because all of use take "handouts".
    Its not a handout if I pay for it. Is that hard to grasp?

    I paid for my social security (involuntarily, thats what leftists like to do to get their little schemes), why on earth would I give it back, even if it underperforms a conservative financial investment?

    What handouts to I use, because I dont see them? Can you give me some examples? As established, roads and schools are not examples. What else you got?

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Its not a handout if I pay for it. Is that hard to grasp?
    Except it is...... Not only do you pay for it, but a collective pays for it...

    I paid for my social security (involuntarily, thats what leftists like to do to get their little schemes), why on earth would I give it back, even if it underperforms a conservative financial investment?
    Guess who also paid for that. Employers. Welcome to your "handout". Better give it all back, right?

    What handouts to I use, because I dont see them? Can you give me some examples? As established, roads and schools are not examples. What else you got?
    Except they are. And you yourself just gave one.


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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Except it is...... Not only do you pay for it, but a collective pays for it...


    Guess who also paid for that. Employers. Welcome to your "handout". Better give it all back, right?


    Except they are. And you yourself just gave one.
    I pay for my use and then some.
    Last I checked I work for my employers, not you.
    Except they aren't, comrade. Why is it so hard to realize that some of us take care of ourselves and then some, instead of suckling at the govt/taxpayer teat?

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I pay for my use and then some.
    Which is every "handout"....

    Last I checked I work for my employers, not you.
    Nor did I said "I worked for your employer".... I said that if you are an employee you employer pays into unemployment through a tax... Thats a "handout"...

    Except they aren't, comrade. Why is it so hard to realize that some of us take care of ourselves and then some, instead of suckling at the govt/taxpayer teat?

    Except it is.... You dont pay into a lot of things, but you do receive them. You and others also pay into other programs which you receive as well. Just face it, you receive many "handouts" and are there for you as well if you fall into trouble....


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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Which is every "handout"....


    Nor did I said "I worked for your employer".... I said that if you are an employee you employer pays into unemployment through a tax... Thats a "handout"...



    Except it is.... You dont pay into a lot of things, but you do receive them. You and others also pay into other programs which you receive as well. Just face it, you receive many "handouts" and are there for you as well if you fall into trouble....
    No, thats not every handout. A person who does not contribute did not pay for it, nor are they entitled to it merely for a vote or for existing, or being "oppressed".

    Last I checked, a tax is a govt mandate, coerced on the people. If you force my employer (you have, comrade) how does that help me? Frankly, it hurts me not only by putting a middleman between me and my employer, but by raising costs to my target demo-the sick and injured. Yes, that includes unemployment-which I have/am personally saving/sacrificing for as we speak.

    Except it is how? Give examples. Explain how I receive them? This will be good.

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    Re: US, NATO Troops Parade Near Russian Border in Estonia

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    No, thats not every handout. A person who does not contribute did not pay for it, nor are they entitled to it merely for a vote or for existing, or being "oppressed".
    Are you saying there are people out there that pay no tax what so ever?


    Last I checked, a tax is a govt mandate, coerced on the people.
    Yup

    If you force my employer
    Yup

    (you have, comrade)
    I have? No. I had no say in the tax authority of this state. But hey, if you use "comrade" as a negative term, I guess Adam Smith was a "comrade"..

    how does that help me?
    How? If you loose your job, you are allowed a certain amount of income during a certain time period (as deemed by your state). Thats how.

    Frankly, it hurts me not only by putting a middleman between me and my employer, but by raising costs to my target demo-the sick and injured.
    Somehow you receiving a basic amount of income for a certain amount of time is a negative for you? Are you kidding me?

    Yes, that includes unemployment-which I have/am personally saving/sacrificing for as we speak.
    Unemployment is at no expense for the employee...

    Except it is how? Give examples. Explain how I receive them? This will be good.
    I just gave several in the last couple threads.


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