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    Re: Report: Chicago police shoot teen 16 times

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    That has nothing to do with the shooting that is the topic of this thread. Try and focus.
    yet you felt compelled to quote it, and comment about it

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    Re: Report: Chicago police shoot teen 16 times

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    Apparently he's not as color blind as the left likes to suggest. Perhaps he was going by the kids name? Seems kind of stereotypical to me.
    Color blind is not the opposite of racist. Racist is assuming that racial stereotypes must apply because you think they must.

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    Re: Report: Chicago police shoot teen 16 times

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Not for this young man, he's going to his grave.
    The young man is now not the issue - the police action or reaction as well as the level of reaction is the issue.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Report: Chicago police shoot teen 16 times

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Its not subscriber only, several articles can be read there. If you are disputing the stats, kindly provide your evidence.
    The article you posted is subscriber only. Ergo, there is no specific statistical evidence to dispute. It was an op ed piece by one of white conservative America's favorite black men which you summarized. That may pass as "statistical evidence" to the paramedic field but it does not past muster for a discourse on Laquan McDonald's murder.

    Are you able to quote the article specifically or provide the study from the organization who gathered and analyzed the statistics? When you're ready to do that maybe this goes somewhere.

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    Re: Report: Chicago police shoot teen 16 times

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Because his heart was beating. Thats how blood accumulated in his plural space and subdural space.

    Like I said, I have a medical background.

    You on the other hand, have not demonstrated how you somehow know that he was dead by the 5th shot. Im interested because theres no way anyone there could have known that.
    Pretentious medical language notwithstanding, you have no idea whether or not he was dead.

    On what specific page of the autopsy report does it state Laquan McDonald was alive after being shot 5 times because "blood accumulated in his plural space and subdural space."

    "I have a medical background." Ever conducted an autopsy? Or did you sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night?

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    Re: Report: Chicago police shoot teen 16 times

    So the argument is, they killed him TOO dead?

    I don't see the issue here.

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    Re: Report: Chicago police shoot teen 16 times

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Seems like he had a knife, didn't comply, and even after being shot once was still aggressive towards cops.

    Too bad he probably didn't have a father around to teach him how to behave.


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    Re: Report: Chicago police shoot teen 16 times

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    He was shot twice in the back! You shoot somebody in the chest I doubt they're that much of a threat. Shoot two more times , there's no way, 16 times is overkill.
    Actually this is not true. There was a case some years ago of a cop who shot a subject twice in the chest, then stopped firing (assuming the guy would drop). The guy then raised his rifle and shot the cop squarely through the heart, killing him.

    This is one of the reasons dept policy was changed from "shoot twice and evaluate" to "keep shooting until the threat has clearly ceased" in cases where police are threatened with deadly weapons.

    And in training, they go to great lengths to make sure cops understand that a knife is a deadly weapon, because peeps tend to think "gun > knife". See a few dead cops autopsy photos with gaping knife wounds and you get over that preconception.

    I gather than multiple cops were firing (no surprise, one shoots all shoot).... two or three cops could have fired 16 times in two or three seconds.

    Studies of actual shooting incidents have shown that a subject can be shot through the heart and sometimes still be in the fight for up to six seconds.

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    Re: Report: Chicago police shoot teen 16 times

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Not sure but I suspect that my police department would have to fire off at least 400 rounds to put 16 in somebody based on their history of shooting up walls and ceilings and junk.
    No, depending on rapid the firing is a human target close enough you get hits on every trigger pull but 16 says two officers were firing unless the weapon is 15 in the clip with one in the chamber. I don't know if an 9mms can do that.

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    Re: Report: Chicago police shoot teen 16 times

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    No, depending on rapid the firing is a human target close enough you get hits on every trigger pull but 16 says two officers were firing unless the weapon is 15 in the clip with one in the chamber. I don't know if an 9mms can do that.
    My local PD was involved in a controversial killing of a suicidal mentally ill person a decade or so ago. There were like 5 officers firing inside a house on the man who did not have a gun and they fired an ungodly number of rounds only to strike him a few times. Of course they were all cleared because he had a knife and was not responding to their demands of him, but it is kind of a local joke I guess that the more officers there are, the less likely one will hit you.

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