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    Re: Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith

    Whenever I want the official word on what Allah's will is in any matter, I reach right for the authoritative, officially approved exposition of shari'ah, the 14th century "Reliance of the Traveller." And there I find this, under part "o", entitled "Justice":

    o8.1 When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostasizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed.

    o8.2 In such a case, it is obligatory for the Caliph (or his representative) to ask him to repent and return to Islam. If he does, it is accepted from him, but if he refuses, he is immediately killed.


    Allah doesn't take kindly to fornication or sodomy, either. We are told in o12.2 that if the offender is sane, has reached the age of puberty, and has the capacity to remain chaste--meaning the person has had sexual intercourse at least once with their spouse in a legal marriage--then "he or she is stoned to death." You get off lighter if you did not have the capacity to remain chaste, which can happen under several circumstances. In that case, the penalty is being scourged one hundred stripes and then being banished to a distance of at least fifty miles for one year.

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    Re: Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    But somehow I suspect far more than 1 percent of citizens agree with the ruling, unlike what Obama suggests.
    It's safe to assume anything that comes out of that damned self-serving liar's mouth is untrue. Polls in those Arab nations show that in most of them, a majority favors shari'ah.

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    Re: Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    You don't even understand what you're saying. Good day.
    Uh, no - you don't understand what I'm saying. Persecution is fixed in your evangelical mind and that overrides any facts that may come up.
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    Re: Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith - Telegraph



    So tell me again, Mr. Obama and his fellow apologists, that 99 percent of Muslims are peace-loving people.

    Tell me how ISIS is just poor, disenfranchised youth that have been lured by "violent extremists" who have hijacked this peaceful religion to carry out atrocities in the name of a religion that is otherwise pure and wholesome.
    This is why theocracy is a bad idea.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Nah, those wouldn't be the fearful ones out doing the hunting. That's why they are chosen to do what they do. Specifically because no fear exists in them.

    But then you are acknowledging that when it comes to those in the ME. That no involvement by the US will bring Peace and Stability to those in the ME. Which just isn't reality.
    A huge amount of involvement in the Middle East for years now has netted an Islamic State constructing a caliphate, no, NO, Sorry, but NO!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So you are an "anti-theist"?
    Anti-theocracy. If you need additional help discerning the difference, let me know.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    What I was pointing Out and you, as ALWAYS, Disingenuously avoided, was that Most Saudi 'citizens' would probably NOT disagree, based on country polls (probably 90% do agree) and relative piety... contrary to your Usual Ridiculous Islamo-Apologism.

    GameOver # 6471.
    Probably 90 percent? Why? Why not 42% like Iraq? Why not 76% like Pakistan?

    Why do you assume Saudi Arabia is an outlier?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    A huge amount of involvement in the Middle East for years now has netted an Islamic State constructing a caliphate, no, NO, Sorry, but NO!
    Yeah, and then before there was no huge involvement when you check the History. Seems like they have constantly had the same problems going on. Whether others were there or not. That's the facts.

    So yes.....you can't blame the rest of the World for what those in the ME are responsible for. No matter what way you try to go with it. They take the blame for their own actions and behaviors. No one else.

    Just them.

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    Re: Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Uh, no - you don't understand what I'm saying. Persecution is fixed in your evangelical mind and that overrides any facts that may come up.
    You equated a court beheading a citizen over renouncing Islam to southern Baptists. That's demented.

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    Re: Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    You equated a court beheading a citizen over renouncing Islam to southern Baptists. That's demented.
    You have much less of a grasp that I thought you did.
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