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    Re: Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    As our species evolves onward we progress towards a standard set of ethics, one which accommodates basic rights but also diversity of culture. Exicution for religious expression violates not just diversity of culture, but those basic rights. Therefore we are forced to choose if we want to support social evolution and improvement or stay stuck in the past and tolorate violations of basic rights.

    We, as a people, choose the former.
    You really think so? I would assume the development has more to do with the adaptation of societies to the realities surrounding them and their specific levels of technology. It can for instance be shown, which factors make capital punishment vs prison for a crime the optimizing social instrument. What we seem to find is that the optimal structure of rights for a population very much depends of the circumstances. Running a warship in the East Pacific in 1944 requires different community right than running a small Virginian township in 1956.

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    Re: Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself....." Really, it will be ok.

    So then why do you have all this fear with those in the ME Monte? What about them.....makes you so very afraid. Are you sure you are okay? You do know they are not monsters, Right?

    You're not intimidated by those in the ME are ya? Don't you worry, if they make a mean face. You can get behind me. I'll look out for ya lil fella.

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    Re: Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, not at all. But they have a lot of oil and only oppress their own people.

    Conservatives often wonder why liberals rail so hard against religious influence on laws. This is why.



    oh is this the "christians are bad too" equivalency argument?
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    Re: Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    oh is this the "christians are bad too" equivalency argument?
    Uhh, no, not at all. 0 for 2, buddy.

    Theocracy is bad, and it doesn't matter which religion it ostensibly adheres to.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Us and them Monte.....that's the bottomline.

    Oh and Monte quit with the scared BS, the fear mongering BS.....I am ex military. Do try and think like a strategist. Ever been in Combat Monte? Ever get shot up and live thru it? Did you want to try and tell me what I fear.

    Since it is not death. How you looking now?????
    Yes, let's think like a strategist by answering the point he was actually making instead of chest-beating. The strategies he mentioned, why do you think they work?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Uhh, no, not at all. 0 for 2, buddy.

    Theocracy is bad, and it doesn't matter which religion it ostensibly adheres to.



    So you are an "anti-theist"?
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    Re: Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes, let's think like a strategist by answering the point he was actually making instead of chest-beating. The strategies he mentioned, why do you think they work?
    Yes lets think like one. Do you think you can for longer than a moment?

    So.....Now Try again, explain how taking the US out of the picture solves the problem. What do we do if we leave it all alone and then the ME spills over and everywhere else, and those in the ME don't want peace and stability. What are you going to do, declare war on the Entire ME?

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    Re: Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith

    "Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith "

    Just hope ISIS doesn't take over Saudi Arabia and install their 7th century version of sharia.

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    Re: Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith

    This almost makes them look like the kind of people we shouldnt be selling high tech weapons to.

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    Re: Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    This almost makes them look like the kind of people we shouldnt be selling high tech weapons to.


    we shouldn't be, we should be completely out of the mideast and doing everything we can to produce and use, not export domestic continental oil. But really, let's concentrate on the barbarity here, not how we can blame, or throw a jab at the US.
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