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    State run medias vs. American apologist.

    Vladimir Putin: War with Ukraine would be 'apocalyptic' but unlikely - CNN.com

    "The latest polls show 81% of Russians have a negative view of the U.S. -- the highest number since the collapse of the Soviet Union. State-run media reports the United States wants to encroach on Russia. And the Kremlin's propaganda campaign seems to be paying off."
    "My attitude to America is bad," one woman said. "The way I watch the news, I realize the Americans want to get a hold of half of Russia."


    Allure of Normalcy: What America Still Owes the World | The New Republic

    "The conventional wisdom these days is that Americans are war-weary. But it may be more accurate to say they are world-weary. During the cold war, after all, Americans had much greater reason for war-weariness—Korea and Vietnam were 14 times more costly in terms of American deaths than Afghanistan and Iraq—but they never fully rejected the global anti- communist containment strategy that had gotten them into the wars. Today’s mood seems more analogous to the 1920s. More than 50 percent of Americans today believe that the United States “should mind its own business internationally and let other countries get along the best they can on their own”—the highest number ever recorded since Pew started asking the question 50 years ago.

    If a countries government really wanted the United States to be a seen a certain way, they have the means to do so. One conflict over an issue and everything we've done to appease other nations for our improvement in their eyes could be tossed out of the window in a matter of weeks. I know not everything politically is not so much about acceptance, but it does play a role. Does it make sense to bow down from global issues, such as with strikes on Syria or not going after Iran's nuclear program, just to find acceptance from the world?

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    Re: State run medias vs. American apologist.

    Quote Originally Posted by chad1389 View Post
    Vladimir Putin: War with Ukraine would be 'apocalyptic' but unlikely - CNN.com

    "The latest polls show 81% of Russians have a negative view of the U.S. -- the highest number since the collapse of the Soviet Union. State-run media reports the United States wants to encroach on Russia. And the Kremlin's propaganda campaign seems to be paying off."
    "My attitude to America is bad," one woman said. "The way I watch the news, I realize the Americans want to get a hold of half of Russia."


    Allure of Normalcy: What America Still Owes the World | The New Republic

    "The conventional wisdom these days is that Americans are war-weary. But it may be more accurate to say they are world-weary. During the cold war, after all, Americans had much greater reason for war-weariness—Korea and Vietnam were 14 times more costly in terms of American deaths than Afghanistan and Iraq—but they never fully rejected the global anti- communist containment strategy that had gotten them into the wars. Today’s mood seems more analogous to the 1920s. More than 50 percent of Americans today believe that the United States “should mind its own business internationally and let other countries get along the best they can on their own”—the highest number ever recorded since Pew started asking the question 50 years ago.

    If a countries government really wanted the United States to be a seen a certain way, they have the means to do so. One conflict over an issue and everything we've done to appease other nations for our improvement in their eyes could be tossed out of the window in a matter of weeks. I know not everything politically is not so much about acceptance, but it does play a role. Does it make sense to bow down from global issues, such as with strikes on Syria or not going after Iran's nuclear program, just to find acceptance from the world?
    I think the question is, whether we want to go on paying the full bill for international security. Syria, Ukraine or Iran are not our neighborhood and there are other countries there that should be pitching in and are not doing so. They have been free riding our expenditures of lives and treasure, while they use the money so saved to compete in markets for TVs and cars. Why go on paying the full price for the security of Germans, Chinese, Indians and Japanese?
    We know that that will not be possible for ever and doing so now will only shorten the time we have to install a global security system.

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    Re: State run medias vs. American apologist.

    Quote Originally Posted by chad1389 View Post
    Vladimir Putin: War with Ukraine would be 'apocalyptic' but unlikely - CNN.com

    "The latest polls show 81% of Russians have a negative view of the U.S. -- the highest number since the collapse of the Soviet Union. State-run media reports the United States wants to encroach on Russia. And the Kremlin's propaganda campaign seems to be paying off."
    "My attitude to America is bad," one woman said. "The way I watch the news, I realize the Americans want to get a hold of half of Russia."


    Allure of Normalcy: What America Still Owes the World | The New Republic

    "The conventional wisdom these days is that Americans are war-weary. But it may be more accurate to say they are world-weary. During the cold war, after all, Americans had much greater reason for war-weariness—Korea and Vietnam were 14 times more costly in terms of American deaths than Afghanistan and Iraq—but they never fully rejected the global anti- communist containment strategy that had gotten them into the wars. Today’s mood seems more analogous to the 1920s. More than 50 percent of Americans today believe that the United States “should mind its own business internationally and let other countries get along the best they can on their own”—the highest number ever recorded since Pew started asking the question 50 years ago.

    If a countries government really wanted the United States to be a seen a certain way, they have the means to do so. One conflict over an issue and everything we've done to appease other nations for our improvement in their eyes could be tossed out of the window in a matter of weeks. I know not everything politically is not so much about acceptance, but it does play a role. Does it make sense to bow down from global issues, such as with strikes on Syria or not going after Iran's nuclear program, just to find acceptance from the world?
    Not to "find acceptance from the world" but in the interest of peace, security and legitimacy. Russian news doesn't have to spin anything for Russian people to see the clarity of US/EU interference in Kiev. Russians didn't have to listen to Russian news spin anything to see that despite agreements not to, NATO has expanded eastward 11 times.


    NATO's Eastward Expansion: Did the West Break Its Promise to Moscow?

    By Uwe Klußmann, Matthias Schepp and Klaus Wiegrefe

    Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has accused the West of breaking promises made after the fall of the Iron Curtain, saying that NATO's expansion into Eastern Europe violated commitments made during the negotiations over German reunification. Newly discovered documents from Western archives support the Russian position.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-663315.html
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    Re: State run medias vs. American apologist.

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I think the question is, whether we want to go on paying the full bill for international security. Syria, Ukraine or Iran are not our neighborhood and there are other countries there that should be pitching in and are not doing so. They have been free riding our expenditures of lives and treasure, while they use the money so saved to compete in markets for TVs and cars. Why go on paying the full price for the security of Germans, Chinese, Indians and Japanese?
    We know that that will not be possible for ever and doing so now will only shorten the time we have to install a global security system.
    We agree joG!!!!!!!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: State run medias vs. American apologist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    We agree joG!!!!!!!
    I have always thought you had it in you to see the light, someday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I have always thought you had it in you to see the light, someday.
    Lol, what you posted has long been my position.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: State run medias vs. American apologist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Lol, what you posted has long been my position.


    That's what they all say.

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    Re: State run medias vs. American apologist.

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post


    That's what they all say.
    You use to argue with and are now denying my criticisms of USFP, hilarious.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: State run medias vs. American apologist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You use to argue with and are now denying my criticisms of USFP, hilarious.
    Oh, but different situations call for different responses.
    USFP must be appropriate to the very different circumstances out there.
    Don't you think?

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    Re: State run medias vs. American apologist.

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Oh, but different situations call for different responses.
    USFP must be appropriate to the very different circumstances out there.
    Don't you think?
    Indubitably.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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