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    Re: State run medias vs. American apologist.

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I'm on a mobile and can't really reply in length. But the travers from a unipolar to a multi polar international security structure with the addition of proliferation creates a highly dangerous situation with the probability of nuclear war developing towards near certainty
    Syria does not have nuclear weapons. But if it's about Syrian allies, I disagree. I couldn't see a country wanting to go into a nuclear war to save Syria. But in the case of major world players such as China, they'd have to be really convinced that anything we did was for pure gain and not out of peace to go that far with us. Any country carrying nuclear weapons I assume thinks the same way. Iran, on the other hand, is a different story. Stopping them from attaining nukes that would most likely just use for apocalyptic reasons is why they need to be stopped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad1389 View Post
    Syria does not have nuclear weapons. But if it's about Syrian allies, I disagree. I couldn't see a country wanting to go into a nuclear war to save Syria. But in the case of major world players such as China, they'd have to be really convinced that anything we did was for pure gain and not out of peace to go that far with us. Any country carrying nuclear weapons I assume thinks the same way. Iran, on the other hand, is a different story. Stopping them from attaining nukes that would most likely just use for apocalyptic reasons is why they need to be stopped.
    Try thinking strategically instead of, well otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    The United States shows similar poll results regarding the Russian Federation due to the fact that they are led by a war criminal ethnic cleansing fascist; and whereas, the majority of the world has a favorable view of the United States the exact opposite is true regarding global opinion of the cult of personality led Russian Federation.
    Actually, according to a recent Gallup poll, the US is seen as the largest threat to world peace. (In Gallup Poll, The Biggest Threat To World Peace Is ... America?) The specifics can be seen here (End of Year, George Gallup, WIN, WIN/Gallup International, GLOBAL BAROMETER OF HOPE AND HAPPINESS).
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    Quote Originally Posted by chad1389 View Post
    The world has a reason to view Russia as such. Russia has given its people no reason to view us as an enemy other than for wanting to stop their invasion. That's what I'm pointing out. If a country wanted to do something that was unjust, and we, as a leader of the world, wanted to stop it, the state run medias of that country could flip our favorable view of a country trying to keep peace in the world to a country that just wants to kill everyone. So people here in the U.S apologizing for the U.S being the U.S is pointless.
    That's hilarious! NATO has actively been moving eastward to the point now that they are on Russia's doorstep. If I were Russia, I'd be quite alarmed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    That's hilarious! NATO has actively been moving eastward to the point now that they are on Russia's doorstep. If I were Russia, I'd be quite alarmed.
    Who did we kill in the process of doing this? A pissed of Russia does not mean they can force their way in and cause a civil war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad1389 View Post
    Who did we kill in the process of doing this? A pissed of Russia does not mean they can force their way in and cause a civil war.
    Tragic that you believe this.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Tragic that you believe this.
    It's tragic that you believe Putin's motive for doing so are fair. He supported the rebels in Ukraine in purpose of causing trouble, as he knew more in Ukraine were wanting to break away from the their history involving Russia which would cause Putin to lose national interests. Russia is just pissed off that more people in Ukraine would choose NATO over Russia. He's not trying to save Ukraine. He's only trying to save Russia. Putin being scared that NATO, which was created to unite those afraid of Russia, is going to do exactly what it was created to do if it got Ukraine, is ridiculous. NATO is no threat to Russia. NATO was created to respond to attacks. Not start them. He can't run his own country. What makes anyone in Russia think that by expanding itself it would somehow fix anything?

    We as a nation need to arm those willing to stand up to Russia. And those against it for the reason that "America intervenes too much in global conflicts and needs to stop policing the world" lack understanding of what it means to be American. Who cares if we "police the world?" Whose going to stand up for us if we become invaded? Don't expect any country who sincerely believes that we are a nation of war mongers to do so. Any country that wants to think bad of us, has never not accepted foreign aid from us.

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    Re: State run medias vs. American apologist.

    Quote Originally Posted by chad1389 View Post
    It's tragic that you believe Putin's motive for doing so are fair. He supported the rebels in Ukraine in purpose of causing trouble, as he knew more in Ukraine were wanting to break away from the their history involving Russia which would cause Putin to lose national interests. Russia is just pissed off that more people in Ukraine would choose NATO over Russia. He's not trying to save Ukraine. He's only trying to save Russia. Putin being scared that NATO, which was created to unite those afraid of Russia, is going to do exactly what it was created to do if it got Ukraine, is ridiculous. NATO is no threat to Russia. NATO was created to respond to attacks. Not start them. He can't run his own country. What makes anyone in Russia think that by expanding itself it would somehow fix anything?

    We as a nation need to arm those willing to stand up to Russia. And those against it for the reason that "America intervenes too much in global conflicts and needs to stop policing the world" lack understanding of what it means to be American. Who cares if we "police the world?" Whose going to stand up for us if we become invaded? Don't expect any country who sincerely believes that we are a nation of war mongers to do so. Any country that wants to think bad of us, has never not accepted foreign aid from us.
    Ukrainians weren't choosing NATO. Some were choosing the EU. Democracies have systems for change. They do not include an angry vigilantly mob of a few hundred thousand people in a country of 44 million converging on the Capitol, MC's in hand to burn down federal buildings and force their president from office with hostilities, and firing upon his motorcade as he flees. You wouldn't support that here, so stop supporting it there.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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