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CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218, 239]

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Maybe you could highlight in the constitution where the congress, or the speaker is constitutionally bound to ask the President's permission to invite someone to speak to congress?

It's not just someone, its a foreign minister, as such, the guy in charge of foreign policy should be doing it, or at least consulted. Are you really, denying that Boner was jabbing Obama with this. Are you telling me that you'd be just fine with it, all things reversed.
 
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It's not just someone, its a foreign minister, as such, the guy in charge of foreign policy should be doing it, or at least consulted. Are you really, denying that Boner was jabbing Obama with this. Are you telling me that you'd be just fine with it, all things reversed.

You said it was unconstitutional, now show me where.
 
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Monty is a fan of COTUS so it should be easy to show exactly where.

I know, it's the 47th amendment....Congress shall hold no events, speaking or otherwise before asking the POTUS for permission first.
 
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By secular, as in secular jew-I mean non-practicing. And, yes, Jews will be there too.


What else would you expect a "friend of Hamas" to say? Please don't waste your time (and mine) defending that Breitbart hack. :roll:
 
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What else would you expect a "friend of Hamas" to say? Please don't waste your time (and mine) defending that Breitbart hack. :roll:

Ive heard the same explanation from secular jews. :2wave:
 
re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

well, except that it directly involves a serious situation in Iran that we are facing

but yeah, you can go with simple "spite" if that makes ya feel better.

I would describe it as political spite....one-upmanship. As for Iran, what's so wrong with letting diplomacy run its course?
 
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I would describe it as political spite....one-upmanship. As for Iran, what's so wrong with letting diplomacy run its course?

Its already run its course, and they are soon to get a nuke, sending the entire ME into an arms race with a group thats crazy enough to use it.

Thats not good enough.

Heres where you whine "what right do we have to decide who gets nukes" and other such gibberish.
 
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I would describe it as political spite....one-upmanship. As for Iran, what's so wrong with letting diplomacy run its course?

of course you would... you're here to defend Obama and you believe he was insulted.... that's the basis of just about everyone who has a problem with this whole thing.

diplomacy is still running it's course, but Congress is charged with passing( or not passing) sanctions... it's like, you know, their job and stuff...talking to our #1 ally in the region is pretty helpful in determining a course of action, no matter what Obama supporters believe.
 
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I know, it's the 47th amendment....Congress shall hold no events, speaking or otherwise before asking the POTUS for permission first.

:lol:....funny stuff, but don't give them any ideas.
 
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It's not just someone, its a foreign minister, as such, the guy in charge of foreign policy should be doing it, or at least consulted. Are you really, denying that Boner was jabbing Obama with this. Are you telling me that you'd be just fine with it, all things reversed.

I'm fine with it.. even if all things were reversed.

i'm not under the delusion that he President needs to give permission to Congress to do their jobs.

as for Boner striking back... sure thing, I do think he was striking back at Obama for trying to bully Congress...Boner should strike back at Obama for trying to bully Congress, no doubt about it.

now, other than Obamas butt being hurt, there is no downside to any of this ... Congress should hear what bibi has to say... they are charged with legislating sanctions, and Israel is an integral part of the issue.... they would be negligent not to hear him.
 
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Once again you reveal your incapacity for common sense, much less critical thinking. The majority of Americans support Netanyahu’s speech but don’t approve of the way it was arranged. GOP pollster: Most Americans support Benjamin Netanyahu speech

As for "Netanyahu's cheap election ploy", if you truly believe such hogwash you’re obviously confusing the character of Netanyahu with the character of your messiah, our Fundraiser In Chief, and assuming that Netanyahu has the power to dictate what the US Congress will do.

The more obvious and simple explanation is that Netanyahu opposes the backroom Iranian nukes deal your messiah is trying to push with his executive action, end-around, avoidance of Congressional input and sees this as an opportunity to help put the situation into perspective.

The only Americans who seem to have a problem with the leader of our most staunch ally in the Middle East sharing his thoughts on a pending executive action “treaty” with our most avid enemy in the Middle East are leftists like you who put party loyalty before loyalty to country and who hate free speech from anyone but leftists and anti-Americans.

Yeah I really don't see why Congress thought it was appropriate to bring in the guy in the middle of an election. We should try to stay out of the democratic process of other nations as much as possible.
Obviously it has nothing to do with the fact that the ANNOINTED ONE is working on another ill-advised extra-constitutional treaty with one of our worst enemies and that this issue might actually garner enough bipartisan support to overturn an ANNOINTED ONE veto as a result of Netanyahu’s speech. Obviously this is all about the Israeli election because the ANNOINTED ONE says it is. When will you stop drinking the Kool-Aid and start thinking more critically Deuce?
 
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I'm fine with it.. even if all things were reversed.

i'm not under the delusion that he President needs to give permission to Congress to do their jobs.

as for Boner striking back... sure thing, I do think he was striking back at Obama for trying to bully Congress...Boner should strike back at Obama for trying to bully Congress, no doubt about it.

now, other than Obamas butt being hurt, there is no downside to any of this ... Congress should hear what bibi has to say... they are charged with legislating sanctions, and Israel is an integral part of the issue.... they would be negligent not to hear him.

Well that's just it, foreign policy isn't their job. Figured you'd know that.
 
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Well that's just it, foreign policy isn't their job. Figured you'd know that.

Hate to break it to you but foreign policy IS their job. Only Congress can declare war, treaties must be ratified by senate, funding for everything etc. get a clue!
 
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Hate to break it to you but foreign policy IS their job. Only Congress can declare war, treaties must be ratified by senate, funding for everything etc. get a clue!

I'm still waiting for him to explain his "unconstitutional" claim...Guess he just ignores what is inconvenient for him to answer....Typical.
 
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Hate to break it to you but foreign policy IS their job. Only Congress can declare war, treaties must be ratified by senate, funding for everything etc. get a clue!

It has escaped you that those powers have been subjugated to the president. Of the last 25 wars the US has fought, which one was declared by congress? It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient. There's theory, and there's practice.

Have you seen Leon Panetta testifying before congress that the Pentagon will seek authority to go to war from the UN, and then they will inform congress of their intentions.
 
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Well that's just it, foreign policy isn't their job. Figured you'd know that.

the Senate and House Foreign Relations committees would like to have a word with you about your false argument.
 
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Hate to break it to you but foreign policy IS their job. Only Congress can declare war, treaties must be ratified by senate, funding for everything etc. get a clue!

in the context of this thread... only Congress can levy sanctions... sanctions are levied by legislation, and we all know where the sole power to legislate resides.

this is civics 101 stuff.
 
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I am pleased most Americans apparently oppose Natan-what's-his-guts (*cough*warcriminal) addressing Congress.

But most Americans voted to re-elect both GW Bush AND Obama...so most Americans are political morons.
 
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the Senate and House Foreign Relations committees would like to have a word with you about your false argument.

In the context of this thread, the constitution gives the president the clear upper hand on foreign policy. And as such should be consulted before actions are taken. It's not a permission thing as much as a procedural thing. Who doesn't know that JB was giving Obama the gaff on this.
 
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In the context of this thread, the constitution gives the president the clear upper hand on foreign policy. And as such should be consulted before actions are taken. It's not a permission thing as much as a procedural thing. Who doesn't know that JB was giving Obama the gaff on this.

in the context of this thread, the President is NOT empowered to levy sanctions.. only Congress has that power.
what is it that is being debated in Congress?...whether or not to levy additional sanctions on Iran.... who did they invited as part of this debate?... Bibi.

the President has no legal authority to say Bibi can or cannot speak to Congress...period, end of story....he can be butthurt about it, but he has no legal standing.
the President has no legal authority to tell Congress what they can and cannot do.. or what they will or will not do....
their is no legal requirement for Congress to have to consult the President about their official duties or powers... period.

this whole thing is a matter of courtesy... not legality.
Obama supporters can whine about it on the basis of Congress not showing Obama a courtesy, but they have no legal argument.. not one.

sooner or later you will have to learn that Obama is a President, not a King.
 
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in the context of this thread, the President is NOT empowered to levy sanctions.. only Congress has that power.
what is it that is being debated in Congress?...whether or not to levy additional sanctions on Iran.... who did they invited as part of this debate?... Bibi.

the President has no legal authority to say Bibi can or cannot speak to Congress...period, end of story....he can be butthurt about it, but he has no legal standing.
the President has no legal authority to tell Congress what they can and cannot do.. or what they will or will not do....
their is no legal requirement for Congress to have to consult the President about their official duties or powers... period.

this whole thing is a matter of courtesy... not legality.
Obama supporters can whine about it on the basis of Congress not showing Obama a courtesy, but they have no legal argument.. not one.

sooner or later you will have to learn that Obama is a President, not a King.

Sanctions!?!?!? I thought we were talking about Bibi coming to congress. Btw, can the president veto a sanctions bill? Remember, the president is the "decider"!
 
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Sanctions!?!?!? I thought we were talking about Bibi coming to congress.

wow... you seriously have no idea what's going on do you?


U.S. House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner on Wednesday invited Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to address Congress on Iran without consulting President Barack Obama, and the White House questioned whether protocol had been violated.

Setting up a diplomatic showdown on an issue that has sharply divided Obama and congressional Republicans, Boehner announced the invitation the day after Obama pledged in his State of the Union address to veto Iran sanctions legislation being developed in Congress.
Congress invites Netanyahu for Iran speech, Obama blindsided | Reuters

bibi.. Iran.. sanctions... Congress.

is it making sense yet?
 
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Most leftists are strongly anti-Semitic--B. Hussein Obama is a good example. They say it's Israel they don't like, to try to cover their animosity toward Jews in general.

Yes, I'm a Liberal and proud of it. You, however, are wrong in accusing me of being anti-Semitic.....I don't hate my own species.
 
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It has escaped you that those powers have been subjugated to the president. Of the last 25 wars the US has fought, which one was declared by congress? It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient. There's theory, and there's practice.

Have you seen Leon Panetta testifying before congress that the Pentagon will seek authority to go to war from the UN, and then they will inform congress of their intentions.

lol! The US Constitution is still the supreme law of the land. I know you hate it, except “when expedient”, as all leftists hate the Constitution, because it’s so difficult to amend. That doesn’t mean we ignore it and accept status quo as the supreme law of the land. How foolish your line of logic is.
 
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