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    Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218, 239]

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    CNN is well known for oversampling democrats.
    Yea because thats all I hear folks in my neck of the woods talking about. Every person I run across.

    How they oppose Bibbi coming over without going through Obama first.

    Its all they're literally talking about....Lol

    Its such a ridiculous assertion that I'm surprised CNN tried to pull it off.

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    Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218, 239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Well he is, and considering the exponential increase in new rocket attacks that would occur right after they reset their borders, supporting a return to 1967 borders is a very anti-Israel position.

    Obama knows this, and so does lurch ( John Kerry ).
    Sheesh, Obama's position on the 1967 borders is the same as Pappy Bush, Clinton and W.

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    Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218, 239]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Sheesh, Obama's position on the 1967 borders is the same as Pappy Bush, Clinton and W.
    I don't remember Bush Sr or Clinton publicly declaring that Israel should return to its 1967 Borders.

    But even if they did it doesn't absolve Obama.

    Its a stupid and irresponsible foreign policy assertion especially when you consider what happened the last time Israel gave up any substantial land in the name of " peace ".

    It was rocketed directly by Hammas.
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    Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218, 239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Yea because thats all I hear folks in my neck of the woods talking about. Every person I run across.

    How they oppose Bibbi coming over without going through Obama first.

    Its all they're literally talking about....Lol

    Its such a ridiculous assertion that I'm surprised CNN tried to pull it off.
    I suspect outside of these forums few give a **** and even fewer even know who Netanyahu is.
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    Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Lots of people on the right are strongly anti-Obama.

    But they're going to have to live with him until another Democrat takes his place.

    The GOP has 2 chances of taking over the White House = Slim and none.
    I am delighted that the left is so foolishly overconfident. However I do recall them stating that the GOP was not about to take a majority of either house of congress in 2010 and that dems were going to hold onto the senate and turn back the GOP gains in the house in 2014. It kind of reminded me of the Bagdad Bob character in the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

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    Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by Atiya View Post
    I do not believe Obama to be anti-Israel. And Israel should return to the '67 borders, after all, two peoples have to live in that area. The way Israel keeps gobbling up occupied land which belong to the Palestinians leads one to seriously believe Israel does not want two states. The international community eventually will begin to impose sanctions on Israel: crimes against humanity and the continued stealing of Palestinian land; there will be nothing the US can do to stop this. You are against criticism of Israel and think they can do no wrong. I am at the opposite end of the spectrum in this perception.
    Two peoples do live in that area..

    For once when you peoples adopt Obama talking points, do some research. The prick lies 50% of the time and is wrong the other. There is no basis since 1973 that makes a valid case for Israel to return to the arbitrary boundaries assigned to them by Britain. Since Israel was almost wiped off the map the overwhelming majority of sane individuals insist Israel's survival depend on the current boundaries, as prescribe in a legal cease fire and following peace treaties....

    No one other than anti-Israeli forces and Obama want that. Further the stupid idea has been shot down by EVERY one of America's allies, all of NATO and the G-20, including Canada and Mexico.

    It will never happen, it's merely another wedge issue for Obama to make himself look like a liberator of Islam
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    Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I won't quote the whole thing, but that article misses the point entirely. No one actually cares that BOEHNER broke protocol. Who gives a crap - he's the GOP Speaker and part of his daily job description is throwing bricks at the POTUS.

    The controversy is that Ambassador Dermer and Bibi went along with it.
    Oh, and Netanyahu is supposed to show some kind of loyalty to Obama because why? Obama been such a great friend and admirer to Israel? He is working a deal that puts Israel in mortal danger for goodness sake.
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    Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218, 239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    I don't remember Bush Sr or Clinton publicly declaring that Israel should return to its 1967 Borders.

    But even if they did it doesn't absolve Obama.
    The point was he articulated a decades long U.S. position, which you asserted was evidence he was anti-Israel. It's not anything like evidence of his "anti-Israel" bias whether you agree or not, and the hardliners in Israel have long opposed that U.S. position.

    Its a stupid and irresponsible foreign policy assertion especially when you consider what happened the last time Israel gave up any substantial land in the name of " peace ".

    It was rocketed directly by Hammas.
    OK, but if there is to be a two state solution, there has to be a starting point for those borders. That starting point has been the 1967 borders.

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    Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh, and Netanyahu is supposed to show some kind of loyalty to Obama because why? Obama been such a great friend and admirer to Israel? He is working a deal that puts Israel in mortal danger for goodness sake.
    Because why? Because Obama is the head of state and is the person conducting foreign policy on behalf of the U.S., and Israel needs the U.S. and therefore Obama in their corner. The other option is 2/3 of the Congress.

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    Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    I am delighted that the left is so foolishly overconfident. However I do recall them stating that the GOP was not about to take a majority of either house of congress in 2010 and that dems were going to hold onto the senate and turn back the GOP gains in the house in 2014. It kind of reminded me of the Bagdad Bob character in the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
    We're gonna win!

    It's like a high school football game. The cheerleaders have to keep spirits high even when its a 6 - 0 hockey game with two minutes left.

    Check back to last November, right up till election day "Obama will gain in the Senate and get back the house!'

    Has anyone asked these predictors exactly HOW Obama's democrats or any of them, will win it all back?

    Who will be the one to run against the Republicans with Obama's record of disaster? Hillary?

    Yeah, we will have Obama around for two years....and so will the American people. And by the time the Dems go looking for a sacrificial lamb, the Republicans will have a truckload of job creating bills that have been vetoed by the man who has "enemies".
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