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    re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Lol. I'm in company with David Cameron, ok j.
    So are you saying that you hate Israel more than David Cameron?
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    re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I wasn't speaking to them at that moment. But as you well know, when I do, they're miscreants, freaks and vermin.
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    re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    So are you saying that you hate Israel more than David Cameron?
    I told you what I hate. Oppression, and a US policy of supporting it. You may think that David Cameron's view of Israel's oppression of Palestinians means he hates Israel, but he'd probably laugh at you just as I am.
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    re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Yes, I was making a joke about the abject ineptitude of the WH that you seem to align with. Meanwhile the WH obviously doesn't think Hamas is a terrorist organization as it plans to start funding them.
    If I were President of the United States and wanted to support Islamic supremacy I would, while visiting Muslims nations, be critical of US Foreign policy and their history, vow to close Gitmo, work against the advice of military advisers and withdraw troops from the Middle East, remove the leadership from several ME countries to create chaos, separate America from its traditional allies, support the Muslim Brotherhood and call it an "Arab Spring", release terrorist prisoners from Gitmo, downplay an Islamic group establishing a caliphate, have no serious response to the security of military personnel and support groups like Hamas.

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    re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Because they went with an angle every sentient human understands was the original intent of going around the WH? Makes sense....
    So by "going around the White House you mean notifying the White House and asking if there were any objections? Makes sense...

    The source was clearly identified as Boehner. The quotes around the words tell you this. Boehner's office distributed the talking points and the official statement.
    Nope, the SUBJECT was clearly defined as Boehner. If the assertion is that a never distributed DRAFT contained the verbiage in the given context then present the document. If they didn't pull that information from the actual document but rather from a source claiming to have read the document then they are distributing hearsay.

    That you can't accept direct quotes from Boehner as direct quotes tells me how far you'll go to deny the obvious. Do your own Google search - the "hell no" section will work fine. That statement was made widely available to the press. The Guardian even quoted from it.
    I don't accept unverified quotes of an supposedly unpublished draft as a "direct quote", no.


    What you're missing is EVERYONE recognizes that if the speaker (and Amb.) weren't snubbing the WH that the call to "pass the invite by the WH" would have happened at least days, maybe weeks before it was made public. Instead, the WH got the 'heads up' sometime in the morning, before 9:30am.
    And when did the Israeli Ambassador contact the White House? And when did the Ambassador accept the invitation? Do you honestly think this White House is so utterly inept that it can't formulate an opinion of the visit the same day they were notified? What the hell do you think the WH needs to do to prepare an opinion? Does the Weekly Standard article is based on the news that the invite had been made by Boehner, not that it had been accepted by the Ambassador. Again, that Ambassador communication with the WH is conveniently missing from the WS article and the WH poutrage hissy fit. Based on the fact that the WS left that out of their story I assume the official acceptance came some time after 9:30am.

    I don't even really care that Boehner and the Ambassador snubbed Obama. What's incredible and insulting is now that it's become a problem for Netanyahu the parties are too cowardly to own their own actions and are asking us to believe that pee is rain falling.
    What is appalling is that Obamanites are trying to turn this into an international incident based on the incomplete timeline that the WH is pushing.
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    re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If I were President of the United States and wanted to support Islamic supremacy I would, while visiting Muslims nations, be critical of US Foreign policy and their history, vow to close Gitmo, work against the advice of military advisers and withdraw troops from the Middle East, remove the leadership from several ME countries to create chaos, separate America from its traditional allies, support the Muslim Brotherhood and call it an "Arab Spring", release terrorist prisoners from Gitmo, downplay an Islamic group establishing a caliphate, have no serious response to the security of military personnel and support groups like Hamas.
    It's a tribute to the policy of previous administrations that they were able to literally idiot-proof Egypt from Obama's stupidity.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    So by "going around the White House you mean notifying the White House and asking if there were any objections? Makes sense...
    You're working hard to convince me that pee is rain, I'll give you that.

    The protocol to inviting a head of state to the U.S. involves working with the WH at a minimum, and normally the invitation would be head of state to head of state. It's fine that Boehner invited Bibi, but the process intentionally cut the WH out of the process, and they only notified the WH a few minutes before the official invitation was issued. That was intentional, a deliberate poke at Obama. Weekly Standard correctly labeled it at that time.

    Nope, the SUBJECT was clearly defined as Boehner. If the assertion is that a never distributed DRAFT contained the verbiage in the given context then present the document. If they didn't pull that information from the actual document but rather from a source claiming to have read the document then they are distributing hearsay.
    Goodness, here's Politico with the same text: John Boehner?s Bibi invite sets up showdown with White House - Jake Sherman - POLITICO

    Here's an AP version published by someone else: John Boehner invites Israeli leader to address Congress on Iran | Daily Chronicle

    Another story: Daily Kickoff: Boehner invites Bibi to speak to Congress on Iran on Feb 11th | Blinken & Cohen testifying now on Iran | Moline to Interfaith Alliance | Jewish Insider

    Gosh, it's almost like Boehner had some talking points and distributed them to media outlets!!! Imagine that..... You're really digging a hole - might quit digging.

    I don't accept unverified quotes of an supposedly unpublished draft as a "direct quote", no.
    OK, but why would an outlet friendly to Netanyahu, and Boehner make this stuff up? They didn't - they clearly were given a heads up by Boehner to get an approved message out to their allies. You're pretending that they'd intentionally undermine both the PM and Boehner - it's literally unbelievable that Weekly Standard would do that.

    And when did the Israeli Ambassador contact the White House? And when did the Ambassador accept the invitation? Do you honestly think this White House is so utterly inept that it can't formulate an opinion of the visit the same day they were notified? What the hell do you think the WH needs to do to prepare an opinion? Does the Weekly Standard article is based on the news that the invite had been made by Boehner, not that it had been accepted by the Ambassador. Again, that Ambassador communication with the WH is conveniently missing from the WS article and the WH poutrage hissy fit. Based on the fact that the WS left that out of their story I assume the official acceptance came some time after 9:30am.
    We've been over it. The process intentionally cut the WH out of the loop. It's fine, but they can't go back and redo history to pretend that they worked with the WH. They didn't.

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    re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    We've been over it. The process intentionally cut the WH out of the loop. It's fine, but they can't go back and redo history to pretend that they worked with the WH. They didn't.
    As you say, it doesn't matter because this isn't about Barrack Obama.

    It's far more important that the US maintains close ties with its allies than involve a petulant BHO in conversations with someone who he clearly dislikes. Obama will be gone in a couple of years, thankfully, but the problems in the ME will remain. That's why the WH, for the next while, can safely be ignored.

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    re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    As you say, it doesn't matter because this isn't about Barrack Obama.

    It's far more important that the US maintains close ties with its allies than involve a petulant BHO in conversations with someone who he clearly dislikes. Obama will be gone in a couple of years, thankfully, but the problems in the ME will remain. That's why the WH, for the next while, can safely be ignored.
    I think the feeling is mutual, and what's sort of amazing is Bibi is the beggar in the relationship and somehow believes the roles are reversed, and he has the authority to dictate terms to the U.S. and more specifically the WH.

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    re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Wrong again j. I do hate the Jewish States oppression of the Palestinians. Do you think that David Cameron hates Israel because he has criticized their treatment of the Palestinians?
    did the palestinians ( who ever that really is as there has never been such a country) did they VOTE in Hamas?

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