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CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218, 239]

Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

Yes, it is indeed a serious breach of protocol. Israel is a client state and should not be deliberatly participating in some political stratagem to try and undercut the president of the US. We have always had people in Israel lobbying on behalf of the US against the Likud. Look, Israel has AIPAC and many other well-cushioned Jewish-American organization fighting in America on behalf of Israel, the size of New Jersey. The US in Israel proper is merely trying to protect America's interest. One of Likud's members leaked to the press that "Obama won't be in power long" which meant in two years when Obama's term is up, the Republicans who would put Israel before America, their own country, will then be able to allow Israel more of a free hand but only if there is a Republican president.

wrong.. this has already been discussed.. this is a turmped up Protocal issue .

is tapping Merkals phone "proper Protcal"?

Obama is a disease
 
Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

Last I saw nearly 3/4 of all Jewish voters voted for Obama

show me a link.. show me one from 2012...

the Jews I know hate him...who wouldnt?
 
Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

not one person on the earth ever felt GWB or any Bush was not a friend of the Jewish people ..

I dont know too many Jews who have anything but disdain for Obama and his inner circle of scum..

It's because you exist in a right wing bubble. You shouldn't assume those outside the bubble feel as you do.
 
Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

They are secular, essentially only ethnic Jews. Practicing Jews not so much.

So only about 20% of Jews are practicing Jews? That's pretty much the % that voted Republican. Also, where are you getting your information or is this just fabricated since reality doesn't mesh with your narrative?
 
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You said this: "why should Netanyahu care any more about President Obama than Obama has demonstrated he cares about Netanyahu?"

You've invented a number of straw men there, but the point was fairly simple and not really arguable - the U.S. - Israel relationship isn't one of equals or approximate equals. One of them depends on the other for its continued safety and security and the other simply does NOT.

So it is your opinion that we should use the very real threat against Israel as leverage ... against Israel? Do you realize how f-ed up that is to say about an Ally?

Obama and Kerry's obligation is also to serve the interests of the U.S.A - not Israel. If those goals conflict, they have a Constitutional duty to act in our interests, not those of Israel. So it's the Israelis' job to convince Obama that the Iranian negotiations aren't in OUR interest as well as that of Israel, not the other way around.

Hence the reason why Obama snubs Netanyahu and throws a hissy fit when he is coming to give a speech in the US... it's really hard to avoid Netanyahu's argument when the he won't respond to commands to shut up.

And what a lot of very pro-Israeli commentators have repeatedly pointed out is that picking a public fight with the person you're asking for a favor isn't generally considered a winning strategy.

Obama is the one picking a fight here. After bypassing Congress repeatedly with major policy changes he really looks like a petulant child by complaining that he wasn't given enough advanced notice for a Congressional speech.
 
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Looks like the vote liberal... but even they recognize Obama is rancid and have moved away from Barry Hussein Obama...

I will bet it will keep sliding away from the Dems..

So 70% of the population is moving away? It fluctuates but that's still a very high majority of the population.
 
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I don't understand your question. A better question is what can Israel do against Iran without current and ongoing U.S. support. Almost nothing seems to me the approximate answer.

Hah, it is a very simple question. You said that Israel has everything to lose if the US is no longer an ally. My questions is what you think they will lose.

You answered this question in your last post though. You know as well as I that without US support the Israeli state is destroyed... and you want to use that as leverage with Israel.
 
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It's because you exist in a right wing bubble. You shouldn't assume those outside the bubble feel as you do.

I live in NJ.. and had my life changed on 9/11 and on the first WTC bombing...Ives studied the Jihad against the USA for 25 years

where is that bubble?
 
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So 70% of the population is moving away? It fluctuates but that's still a very high majority of the population.

look at the trend of your own link?

Im telling you Obama has moved the Jews away from worry about " birth control and gay marriage" as their main concerns...

Obama dont care as he is importing his votes from the border.. Jews dont popluate fast enough to be a big voting block..
 
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so Obama going to Israel was not "politically motivated"? but bibi coming over the possibility of a radical fanatical regime that is sworn to Israel dustruction is " Unsanctioned and politcally motivated"...

do you know how and when the election in Israel was even scheduled?..

March 17th, as I said. This is how I can say that a candidate privately meeting with the leaders of a country 4.5 months before an election is different than a leader of a country, going behind the back of the President of the United states to stage a public photo in a congressional clown show 2 weeks before an election.

This is an insult to the constitution and demeans the office of the Presidency.
 
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look at the trend of your own link?

Im telling you Obama has moved the Jews away from worry about " birth control and gay marriage" as their main concerns...

Obama dont care as he is importing his votes from the border.. Jews dont popluate fast enough to be a big voting block..

69% while less than 2008 is still much higher than the lows for other Democratic Presidents (and much higher than any Republican President).
 
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March 17th, as I said. This is how I can say that a candidate privately meeting with the leaders of a country 4.5 months before an election is different than a leader of a country, going behind the back of the President of the United states to stage a public photo in a congressional clown show 2 weeks before an election.

This is an insult to the constitution and demeans the office of the Presidency.


again.. when was the election date made?...what date was that date chosen? what part is confusing you...

Obama is a clown..Bibi is a real man..
 
Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

69% while less than 2008 is still much higher than the lows for other Democratic Presidents (and much higher than any Republican President).


and it will keep going down for the Dems..but you guys care less... Obama is importing new hand out voters..
 
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Facts dont lie. The democrat party has a shameful and racist history, and it continues on.

You might have a point...except for the fact the Democratic party is by far the most diverse of the two parties. So a party that won 93% of African Americans, 71% of Hispanics, 73% of Asians is "racist"?
 
Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

March 17th, as I said. This is how I can say that a candidate privately meeting with the leaders of a country 4.5 months before an election is different than a leader of a country, going behind the back of the President of the United states to stage a public photo in a congressional clown show 2 weeks before an election.

This is an insult to the constitution and demeans the office of the Presidency.

Obama was a zero.. you make it sound like anyone in Israel cared about this Hussein Obama.. Obama pulled a rancid self serving stunt to try to aina few cheap votes... and he broke protocal while there..

Bibi is going stricly over the timing of the deal with Iran.. as this election was just called two months ago..
 
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and it will keep going down for the Dems..but you guys care less... Obama is importing new hand out voters..

You obviously have no idea what Jewish voters are thinking since you needed a link to see how overwhelmingly they voted for Obama.
 
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March 17th, as I said. This is how I can say that a candidate privately meeting with the leaders of a country 4.5 months before an election is different than a leader of a country, going behind the back of the President of the United states to stage a public photo in a congressional clown show 2 weeks before an election.

This is an insult to the constitution and demeans the office of the Presidency.

Obama demeans the office.... a total scumbag he is..
 
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You obviously have no idea what Jewish voters are thinking since you needed a link to see how overwhelmingly they voted for Obama.

who is Odinga?

Nobody would have voted for Obama if it wasnt for the media white wash of this Alinsky Frank Marshall Davis clone..

whats your point again?
 
Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

Knesset votes to dissolve; new elections called for March 17 | The Times of Israel!


it gets tiring.. but the "call" to have elections in Israel was on Dec 3rd..Bibi had no control over this.. so he has only limited time and sadly Iran is using this in leveraging the USA...

Libs here dont seem to get it..this is not a standing date that was in stone for years..
 
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You might have a point...except for the fact the Democratic party is by far the most diverse of the two parties. So a party that won 93% of African Americans, 71% of Hispanics, 73% of Asians is "racist"?

In your mind, does diversity=not racist?
 
Re: CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218]

Knesset votes to dissolve; new elections called for March 17 | The Times of Israel!


it gets tiring.. but the "call" to have elections in Israel was on Dec 3rd..Bibi had no control over this.. so he has only limited time and sadly Iran is using this in leveraging the USA...

Libs here dont seem to get it..this is not a standing date that was in stone for years..

But that does not mean that this is could be a purely promotional political decision on the side of Netanyahu for his own political campaign.
 
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