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    Re: DHS intelligence report warns of domestic right-wing terror threat

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    “Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.” — Al Gore, 2002

    “In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security.” — Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

    “I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons…I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out.” — Clinton’s Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003

    The question is as always...what happened to them?
    What does that have to do with your big fat LIE about Hans Blix, hmm? And I already told you that I know that democrats believed the WMD lie, so why are you presenting quotes from them?
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    Re: DHS intelligence report warns of domestic right-wing terror threat

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    These guys do...
    "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
    -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
    "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
    -- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
    "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
    -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
    "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
    -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
    -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
    "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
    -- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
    "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
    -- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

    The greater question remains...what happened to them?

    “I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons…I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out.” — Clinton’s Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003
    “Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production.” — Ex-Un Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998

    Everyone 'knew' he had them. UN Inspectors inventoried them. Everyone knows he refused to account for them. The question is what happened to them?
    Democrats lied. And? US national security was not compromised by Saddam no matter how much you want to revise history. That's all you got? The Democrats lied about the invasion of Iraq. No ****.

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    Re: DHS intelligence report warns of domestic right-wing terror threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What does that have to do with your big fat LIE about Hans Blix, hmm? And I already told you that I know that democrats believed the WMD lie, so why are you presenting quotes from them?
    There is no lie about anyone. The absolute reality is that no one knows what happens to the WMDs that were documented and catalogued by the UN inspection teams that Saddam purposely and intentionally hid. We KNOW what he had...we dont know what he did with them. every democrat believed it when Clinton was president. Damn near every democrat believed it when Bush was president. Your pathetic comments about Powell prove how desperate you are to try and sell the myth of the lie but there IS no lie. We KNOW he had them. We dont know what he did with them. Maybe blame that on the people that let him get away with it for the 10 years prior to Bush going into office.

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    Re: DHS intelligence report warns of domestic right-wing terror threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Frantz Fanon View Post
    Democrats lied. And? US national security was not compromised by Saddam no matter how much you want to revise history. That's all you got? The Democrats lied about the invasion of Iraq. No ****.
    It was just Bush...and it wasnt 'democrats'. The world intel agencies all knew that Saddam had WMDs. every one of them. The UN passed 17....count em...17 resolutions attempting to force compliance as to the whereabouts or disposition of the WMDs. There is no mystery as to whether or not they had them. The question is...where are they?

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    Re: DHS intelligence report warns of domestic right-wing terror threat

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    There is no lie about anyone. The absolute reality is that no one knows what happens to the WMDs that were documented and catalogued by the UN inspection teams that Saddam purposely and intentionally hid. We KNOW what he had...we dont know what he did with them. every democrat believed it when Clinton was president. Damn near every democrat believed it when Bush was president. Your pathetic comments about Powell prove how desperate you are to try and sell the myth of the lie but there IS no lie. We KNOW he had them. We dont know what he did with them. Maybe blame that on the people that let him get away with it for the 10 years prior to Bush going into office.
    I just proved to you that Hans Blix, who led that team, says there was nothing, nada, zilch, zip. He went home and wrote a scathing letter about the liars. And has subsequently given a bunch of speeches about this. Hans Blix was there, you were not, so I'll go with his report.
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    Re: DHS intelligence report warns of domestic right-wing terror threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I just proved to you that Hans Blix, who led that team, says there was nothing, nada, zilch, zip. He went home and wrote a scathing letter about the liars. And has subsequently given a bunch of speeches about this. Hans Blix was there, you were not, so I'll go with his report.
    "Hans Blix said in late January 2003 that Iraq had "not genuinely accepted UN resolutions demanding that it disarm."[64] He claimed there were some materials which had not been accounted for. Since sites had been found which evidenced the destruction of chemical weaponry, UNSCOM was actively working with Iraq on methods to ascertain for certain whether the amounts destroyed matched up with the amounts that Iraq had produced.[65][66] In the next quarterly report, after the war, the total amount of proscribed items destroyed by UNMOVIC in Iraq can be gathered.[67] Those include:

    50 deployed Al-Samoud 2 missiles
    Various equipment, including vehicles, engines and warheads, related to the AS2 missiles
    2 large propellant casting chambers
    14 155 mm shells filled with mustard gas, the mustard gas totaling approximately 49 litres and still at high purity
    Approximately 500 ml of thiodiglycol
    Some 122 mm chemical warheads
    Some chemical equipment
    224.6 kg of expired growth media
    Iraq and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    You 'proved' precisely dick. Blix, Ritter...they all confirmed the same thing. They could not account for or find what they knew previously Saddam had.

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    Re: DHS intelligence report warns of domestic right-wing terror threat

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    "Hans Blix said in late January 2003 that Iraq had "not genuinely accepted UN resolutions demanding that it disarm."[64] He claimed there were some materials which had not been accounted for. Since sites had been found which evidenced the destruction of chemical weaponry, UNSCOM was actively working with Iraq on methods to ascertain for certain whether the amounts destroyed matched up with the amounts that Iraq had produced.[65][66] In the next quarterly report, after the war, the total amount of proscribed items destroyed by UNMOVIC in Iraq can be gathered.[67] Those include:

    50 deployed Al-Samoud 2 missiles
    Various equipment, including vehicles, engines and warheads, related to the AS2 missiles
    2 large propellant casting chambers
    14 155 mm shells filled with mustard gas, the mustard gas totaling approximately 49 litres and still at high purity
    Approximately 500 ml of thiodiglycol
    Some 122 mm chemical warheads
    Some chemical equipment
    224.6 kg of expired growth media
    Iraq and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    You 'proved' precisely dick. Blix, Ritter...they all confirmed the same thing. They could not account for or find what they knew previously Saddam had.
    None of that **** could create the fabled mushroom cloud over a US city that BushCo scared old ladies and children to death with. And ginned up support for his violation of international law with.

    Besides that, you can't say that you can't find something on somebody, but insist that they have it, and prosecute them for it. I mean Bush can, but you get my point.
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    Re: DHS intelligence report warns of domestic right-wing terror threat

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Comparing domestic right wing to ISIS is dishonest.
    If this list in the link below is correct and with so much unchecked rampant hate in the US, it would be foolish and naïve to dismiss domestic terrorism...


    Terror From the Right: Plots, Conspiracies and Racist Rampages Since Oklahoma City | Southern Poverty Law Center

    A few highlights:

    In 2011, a group called "Forever Enduring, Always Ready (FEAR) plotted to take over a military base, blow up a dam and poison apple orchards in Washington....

    In 2013, two white supremacists plotted to build a truck-borne radiation weapon that could be turned on remotely and that they hoped to use in the mass murder of Muslims and others....

    In 2014, a guy in Texas plotted to use C-4 explosives and weapons to rob banks and armored cars, blow up government buildings and mosques, and kill police officers .....


    Now is not the time to turn a blind eye to terrorism here in the USA, domestic or otherwise.

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    Re: DHS intelligence report warns of domestic right-wing terror threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    If this list in the link below is correct and with so much unchecked rampant hate in the US, it would be foolish and naïve to dismiss domestic terrorism...


    Terror From the Right: Plots, Conspiracies and Racist Rampages Since Oklahoma City | Southern Poverty Law Center

    A few highlights:

    In 2011, a group called "Forever Enduring, Always Ready (FEAR) plotted to take over a military base, blow up a dam and poison apple orchards in Washington....

    In 2013, two white supremacists plotted to build a truck-borne radiation weapon that could be turned on remotely and that they hoped to use in the mass murder of Muslims and others....

    In 2014, a guy in Texas plotted to use C-4 explosives and weapons to rob banks and armored cars, blow up government buildings and mosques, and kill police officers .....


    Now is not the time to turn a blind eye to terrorism here in the USA, domestic or otherwise.
    To the bolded. Exactly, we did that once, and got nine elevened!
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    Re: DHS intelligence report warns of domestic right-wing terror threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    If this list in the link below is correct and with so much unchecked rampant hate in the US, it would be foolish and naïve to dismiss domestic terrorism...


    Terror From the Right: Plots, Conspiracies and Racist Rampages Since Oklahoma City | Southern Poverty Law Center

    A few highlights:

    In 2011, a group called "Forever Enduring, Always Ready (FEAR) plotted to take over a military base, blow up a dam and poison apple orchards in Washington....

    In 2013, two white supremacists plotted to build a truck-borne radiation weapon that could be turned on remotely and that they hoped to use in the mass murder of Muslims and others....

    In 2014, a guy in Texas plotted to use C-4 explosives and weapons to rob banks and armored cars, blow up government buildings and mosques, and kill police officers .....


    Now is not the time to turn a blind eye to terrorism here in the USA, domestic or otherwise.



    lol, is that the best you have? 4 dismal attempts at what now?


    I mean really, we should give up all of our freedom because of this epidemic of "right wing terror".....


    The gov fear mongering is working I see.



    and the SPL is not known for it's honesty so, I'd need some other source to even look at these 4.... you found.
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