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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Why don't you people go fight for ISIS if you think our president, country, and military are such failures. God I'm sick of the bickering and armchair generals. If you served under me I'd tell you to shut the hell up and go clean the latrines!

    Good grief!

    And our president is not "BO." His name is designation is president Obama commander in chief of the United States of America. Have some respect for the office.

    Oh quit carrying BO peeps water.....just because you can't handle that you chose a failure. Doesn't mean you can cry to those of us who actually know what to do.

    Now I know you lefties are literalists.....but can you like actually figure out what the Guys initials are. So we wouldn't have to show how smart you are.
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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, its not crazy to tell the bad guys when and where we're going to attack. Right!
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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    The 2003 Iraq invasion wasn't exactly a secret, either.

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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The belief that giving ISIL a week or even a month's heads up will make any difference is absurd. What are they going to do? Ready up their tanks? Dust off their helicopters? Upgrade their nuclear arsenal?
    How about harden defenses, traps, set up civilians by key strategic facilities, move valuable equipment around, and of course hostages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    false.

    nobody divulged target lists ,
    CNN.com - U.S. launches cruise missiles at Saddam - Mar. 20, 2003

    US military sources have told the BBC that five key members of the Iraqi regime, including Saddam Hussein, were targeted in the first attacks.
    troop strengths,
    Powell Advised Bush to Add Iraq Troops (washingtonpost.com)

    Less than three weeks after the White House meeting, the Pentagon announced that it would boost the U.S. military presence in Iraq by 12,000 troops, to 150,000.
    USATODAY.com - Army chief: Force to occupy Iraq massive

    Army spokesman Col. Joseph Curtin said later that Shinseki was only giving a rough estimate.

    Pentagon officials have said that U.S. forces massed in the region number about 200,000, about half of them Army.
    Defense.gov News Article: Rumsfeld: No U.S. Troop Increase Foreseen for Iraq

    In fact, Honduras, Nicaragua and El Salvador are sending a combined total of about 1,000 troops to Iraq, including about 350 troops from Honduras, U.S. defense officials said. News reports cite El Salvador also sending about 350 troops to Iraq, with Nicaragua providing around 250.
    Earlier in the day Rumsfeld visited with about 500 U.S. Joint Task Force Bravo troops at Soto Cano, a Honduran air base.
    or unit compositions.

    servicemembers who do this open themselves up to prosecution under the UCMJ
    http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1103920.html

    U.S. State Department spokesman Richard Boucher yesterday announced the 30 countries that have confirmed they will participate: "Albania, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Estonia, El Salvador, Georgia, Honduras, Hungary, Italy, Japan, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Mongolia, Netherlands, Nicaragua, Norway, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, South Korea, Spain, U.K. and Ukraine. Their participation in stabilization operations is already confirmed."

    But there is skepticism among some military experts and analysts about the number of soldiers that many of these countries can offer. The largest contributor to the multinational division will be Poland with some 2,300 soldiers. Ukraine is posting 1,800 troops to Iraq, while Spain has pledged 1,300.

    Bulgaria is sending about 500 troops into Iraq. Hungary has pledged several hundred. Romania and Latvia each are deploying about 150 soldiers, while Slovakia and Lithuania each are sending in 85. Kazakhstan has offered to send 25 soldiers.

    Coalition forces now in Iraq include about 150,000 U.S. soldiers and some 11,000 British troops. But according to Ian Kemp, editor of the London-based military affairs publication "Jane's Defence Weekly," many experts estimate that another 100,000 troops are needed to ensure stability across the country.
    We get it, these things didn't happen.
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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I have no idea where to go with this. Hey, we are coming...
    Well we, also, told them when we were leaving which is what ISIS was waiting for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    How about harden defenses, traps, set up civilians by key strategic facilities, move valuable equipment around, and of course hostages.
    Harden defences... against what exactly? Set up civilians by key strategic facilities? Moving hostages? Lol. Were they not doing these things already? Gee, one would think that big bad ISIL would have started doing these things now that they've gotten into fights the Kurds, Jordanians, Iran-backed Shiites, etc. Wait, they're only doing it now that the US is getting involved? Lol. Get serious.
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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Harden defences... against what exactly? Set up civilians by key strategic facilities? Moving hostages? Lol. Were they not doing these things already? Gee, one would think that big bad ISIL would have started doing these things now that they've gotten into fights the Kurds, Jordanians, Iran-backed Shiites, etc. Wait, they're only doing it now that the US is getting involved? Lol. Get serious.
    You get serious. ISIS was leaving Mosul completely open to attack. But now that one of Hussein Obummer's stooges has let the cat out of the bag, they will be fortifying the place like Camelot. Theses Iraqi's might have stood a chance if they assembled a force and attacked in complete secrecy, but now that BO has given ISIS time to fortify the city, there's no way they can win.
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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    You get serious. ISIS was leaving Mosul completely open to attack. But now that one of Hussein Obummer's stooges has let the cat out of the bag, they will be fortifying the place like Camelot. Theses Iraqi's might have stood a chance if they assembled a force and attacked in complete secrecy, but now that BO has given ISIS time to fortify the city, there's no way they can win.
    Drats! How could BO and his fellow dopes have been such fools! 20,000-30,000 people moving across a desert in complete secrecy!? ISIL would have never seen them coming! How could they? It's not like they could have thought of using scouts, informants, and your basic neighbourhood snitches to figure out we were coming! It's not like they would have noticed large numbers of people moving towards a city. We've been foiled. And to think, we almost freed Iraq.
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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Harden defences... against what exactly? Set up civilians by key strategic facilities? Moving hostages? Lol. Were they not doing these things already? Gee, one would think that big bad ISIL would have started doing these things now that they've gotten into fights the Kurds, Jordanians, Iran-backed Shiites, etc. Wait, they're only doing it now that the US is getting involved? Lol. Get serious.

    So you don't know much about military tactics, nothing about logistics. Do you think that harden defenses, moving in more anti Air, setting more mines. Inside a city that has bridges and that has an underground that you laugh at the fact that defenses could be improved on from what one had set up from their beginning. Have more withdrawal points that they can fight from when looking to cut and run. A bit much for you to try and conceptualize huh? To difficult to comprehend, eh.

    Wait do you know anything about trying to stay alive when a known offensive is coming in a combat area? Anything at all?

    Yeah I get a good chuckle out of those that think they know some **** about the Military.....when they actually don't. Is that what your civilian handbook tells ya.

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