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    Re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    wow... kind of starting to look like an attack on multiple fronts to spread their support thin.
    Cuts them down the middle. That also entails Iraqi's holding and widening the area. The area around Al Qaim could be a problem though.
    Possible they would use the Shia Militia to head towards Baji in conjunction with the push on Mosul.
    But Al Qaim is a weak point.
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    Re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Cuts them down the middle. That also entails Iraqi's holding and widening the area. The area around Al Qaim could be a problem though.
    Possible they would use the Shia Militia to head towards Baji in conjunction with the push on Mosul.
    But Al Qaim is a weak point.
    Makes announcing the attack bemoaned in the OP kind of strategically relevant now.
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    Re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Makes announcing the attack bemoaned in the OP kind of strategically relevant now.
    The have been trying to make progress in the Tikrit are for some time.
    Iraqi Army Starts Assault to Dislodge ISIL Militants - Bloomberg Business

    Security Forces start attacking ISIL terrorists in southern Tikrit - Iraqi News

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    You may be interested in this site? Blog, but sound information.
    And as mentioned previously, the Shia Militias while better trained/motivated and imho have first crack at weapons, have had better success but are a growing problem. They do not fall under Govt control. And till they do, and have their death squads halted, the numbers of Sunni open to working with the Govt will not be substantial.
    Institute for the Study of War Iraq Updates: Iraq Situation Report: February 19-20, 2015
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    A new political crisis is brewing in Iraq as Sunni political leaders are threatening to boycott the Council of Representatives. Reconciliation of Sunni political and tribal leaders is an essential prerequisite for reconstituting the Iraqi state. Iraq's Prime Minister, Haidar al-Abadi, made some significant attempts to reach out to and reconcile with Sunni political and tribal leaders. Notably, he and the Council of Ministers initiated a vote on the National Guard Law and the Justice and Accountability Law on February 3, the passing of which was a key promise that brought the Sunnis into his government in September of 2014. However, Prime Minister Abadi's inability to control the Shi’a militias is undermining his credibility and the coherence of the Iraqi state.

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    Iraqi Sunni lawmakers said Sunday they were boycotting parliament after the killing of a senior tribal leader was blamed on Shiite militia, sparking fresh tensions between the two communities.
    The boycott comes weeks after suspected Shiite gunmen in January killed three Sunni clerics in Basra, a majority Shiite southern province, triggered outrage in a country mired in sectarian violence.
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    Re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well, you did and your post with what you had to say was shown for viewers.
    Did I? I want you to show where. Can you show where? MMC, your narrative is weakened by the fact that you yourself agreed that ISIL would already be doing these things regardless of whether we played a role or not. It was simply logical. If you want to ignore your own words, that's fine. Just don't try and claim something that isn't there. It's poor form.
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    Re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    D-day was secret. Objectives, timelines, axes of advance, etc. were all secret.
    Different times, different war, different enemy, different objective.


    The fact that Mosul is mostly Sunni is a bigger problem than announcing a time frame for attack, imo. So really, the only question worth asking, imo, is if the Iraq army is ready, willing and capable to take Mosul and keep it? If ISIS thinks the Iraq army is weak then that could be used to their favor...so says Sun Tzu.


    At least this time, the US seems to know the difference between Sunni and Shia. Not knowing the enemy was US biggest mistake in Iraq...so says Sun Tzu.

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    Re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Different times, different war, different enemy, different objective.


    The fact that Mosul is mostly Sunni is a bigger problem than announcing a time frame for attack, imo. So really, the only question worth asking, imo, is if the Iraq army is ready, willing and capable to take Mosul and keep it? If ISIS thinks the Iraq army is weak then that could be used to their favor...so says Sun Tzu.


    At least this time, the US seems to know the difference between Sunni and Shia. Not knowing the enemy was US biggest mistake in Iraq...so says Sun Tzu.
    Tooooooooo funny!! (I mean not really but, hope you get the point)
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    Re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Tooooooooo funny!! (I mean not really but, hope you get the point)
    It's funny until you realize that it's the people that were supposed to protect us.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/17/op...anted=all&_r=0


    (Point taken.)
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    Re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    It's funny until you realize that it's the people that were supposed to protect us.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/17/op...anted=all&_r=0
    Well, that's the purpose of the parenthetical.
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    Re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    The administration's admission of strategic goals is fine. They are already known. The release of tactical information is absolute foolishness and irresponsible.

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    Re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    The administration's admission of strategic goals is fine. They are already known. The release of tactical information is absolute foolishness and irresponsible.
    Unless it is disinformation?
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