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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes and here is where your fabrication of what I said comes in:



    I mocked your absurd belief that ISIL wouldn't already be doing these things. Are you still going to tell us that I discussed what ISIL wouldn't do? C'man MMC. Show us that reading is important and mental.


    But then there was no absurd Belief as I came back with what was standard and generally well known and which you were already shown.

    Oh and Post 65 is where you dropped the 5 links to show how it worked with the Repubs. That's when you came with your lil Routine.

    I just showed it with the issue of hardening defenses. Setting up defenses and then hardening defenses are two different things.

    There going forward any reading the thread fully can see all I stated. So.....NO, It was you mocking and not know how those in the military work and you hoping I had some absurd belief. Again.....one of those specific statement you were looking to play off.


    Then to top it off I had to school you on all ISIS was doing just recently.


    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Try again since the beginning I have stated it will take more than Arab forces.....so it was never a false narrative. Oh and when I have Team BO talking out Both sides of its mouth as to what they are doing. Then show that's exactly what they have said and now want all to think we are taking some sort of action and this will come down in a few months, led by the Iraqis. That we trained them....I can see how you would think this is some sort of major action by us.

    Oh and as to ISIS.....the Islamic State. This does give them time to get ready for this possible offensive. More time.....see in the meantime. They have opened up a front in Lebanon. Took more ground in Syria and Iraq. Just put on an offensive forcing the Kurds to reinforce their lines to Erbil. Which doesn't count them taking the town of Baghdadi, and what they are doing in Anbar Province, while continuously using suicide bombers in Baghdad. While at the same time tested the Saud's New Border Fence.

    So you can see just how focused on waiting around for someone to show up to deal with them they are. Despite now knowing they have some more time to play with, over one offensive thought up by us to be executed by the Iraqis and possibly the Kurds, depending on if they have to defend their lines to Erbil again.
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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Wonder what Douglas Ollivant's angle is on this. As an advisor to the Monument Capital Group, he no doubt personally benefits from conflicts such as that in Iraq. Investing in global and national security, critical infrastructure, aerospace and government services industries!?
    Calling it as he sees it- Iraq is a sectarian mess now. Time will tell, if the Shia continue the policies they had under the previous PM, well they and they world will be looking at the same mess again.
    Now the difference being 100 K Shia Militia who do not take orders from the Govt.
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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Calling it as he sees it- Iraq is a sectarian mess now. Time will tell, if the Shia continue the policies they had under the previous PM, well they and they world will be looking at the same mess again.
    Now the difference being 100 K Shia Militia who do not take orders from the Govt.
    Calling it as he sees it, ok. I guess that's what every bodies doing. I think its far fetched to be making such grandiose declarations about the demise of the Islamic State in Iraq within two years. Two years ago nobody would have known what the Islamic State is, let alone that they'd be wrecking havoc across the region, burning people alive and chopping folks heads of while they're suntanning on the beach.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    But then there was no absurd Belief as I came back with what was standard and generally well known and which you were already shown.
    Lmao, I was shown what I said was inevitable since the beginning? Ummm alright.

    Oh and Post 65 is where you dropped the 5 links to show how it worked with the Repubs.
    Yes, and I then explained that I didn't care then and won't care now because it was as inconsequential to the war itself. What I simply pointed out is that this nothing new or for that matter relevant to the general outcome of a war. The fact that the Bush administration did it and still won the fight against Saddam proves it. You've made some really claims here:

    First you claimed that I discussed what ISIL wouldn't do. Then when I asked you prove that, you couldn't.
    Then you assumed that I had brought up links discussing what ISIL would do. I didn't.
    Then you stated that I brought up what the Bush administration did and it was wrong. Even though it's clear that the Bush administration defeated Saddam's forces regardless.
    Now you're saying that I was shown something I stated would be happening regardless of whether we declared we'd be going after ISIL or not. That contradicts your previous assertion that I had discussed what ISIL wouldn't do.

    You're welcome to retract your false claims any minute now. I can wait.
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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lmao, I was shown what I said was inevitable since the beginning? Ummm alright.



    Yes, and I then explained that I didn't care then and won't care now because it was as inconsequential to the war itself. What I simply pointed out is that this nothing new or for that matter relevant to the general outcome of a war. The fact that the Bush administration did it proves it. You've made some really claims here:

    First you claimed that I discussed what ISIL wouldn't do. Then when I asked you prove that, you couldn't.
    Then you assumed that I had brought up links discussing what ISIL would do. I didn't.
    Then you stated that I brought up what the Bush administration did and it was wrong. Even though it's clear that the Bush administration defeated Saddam's forces regardless.
    Now you're saying that I was shown something I stated would be happening regardless of whether we declared we'd be going after ISIL or not.

    You're welcome to retract your false claims any minute now. I can wait.


    I just showed what you said and I did in return.....and if you think you have some version to reality. Your Deluded!

    But you can attempt to play with that Ring around your collar all you want. I'm not tired.


    here since the page turned and we know you leftist like to play with the out of sight and out of mind routine.



    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post

    Harden defences... against what exactly? Set up civilians by key strategic facilities? Moving hostages? Lol. Were they not doing these things already? Gee, one would think that big bad ISIL would have started doing these things now that they've gotten into fights the Kurds, Jordanians, Iran-backed Shiites, etc. Wait, they're only doing it now that the US is getting involved? Lol. Get serious.

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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I just showed what you said and I did in return
    Yes, and it explicitly even says that ISIL would be doing these things if they are as dangerous as you've made them out to be. Which you agreed and goes in direct contradiction with your claim that I discussed what ISIL wouldn't do. Let's get serious.

    Posting it again doesn't change what is being said. Here, I'll bold it for you:

    Gee, one would think that big bad ISIL would have started doing these things now that they've gotten into fights the Kurds, Jordanians, Iran-backed Shiites, etc. Wait, they're only doing it now that the US is getting involved? Lol. Get serious.
    C'man man. It's almost like you're trying to undermine all of your claims about what I have stated since the beginning.
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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    The jihadists' best weapon, so far, has been B. Hussein Obama. But even President Pinprick may have been convinced by his military advisers that this ISIS problem is spreading and getting out of hand. And it wouldn't look good, either for his legacy or for whatever Democrat runs for president, to have another 9/11 while he's still in the White House. Apparently the U.S., in cooperation with the Kurdish provincial government, has turned Irbil airport into a military base. It has both a 9,200 ft. asphalt runway and a 15,700 ft.! concrete one a Turkish firm added about five years ago. I don't know if there is a secure land route from Kuwait to Irbil, especially the section from Baghdad north to Kirkuk.

    But with a runway that long, at only about 1,500 ft. elevation, a C-17 could bring in an M-1 tank with a good margin of safety. And a C-17 can easily carry two Bradley fighting vehicles. It could probably also carry two Paladin self-propelled howitzers, or one of them and its ammunition carrier. If only several dozen heavy vehicles were involved, it would probably be practical to use a few cargo planes to airlift them in this way. Of course I'm just speculating, but photos of that Irbil base which seem to be recent show quite a lot of heavy equipment and storage containers there already.

    Nothing for the degenerate curs in Mosul to worry about, though. They can go on cutting off little kids' heads and pushing homosexuals off rooftops with complete peace of mind. After all, they have AK-47's, and machine guns on pickup trucks, and mortars, and even a few captured Humvees and howitzers and tanks, complete with operating manuals! And above all, their faith in Allah makes all the infidels' mighty weapons as nothing!

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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes, and it explicitly even says that ISIL would be doing these things if they are as dangerous as you've made them out to be. Which you agreed and goes in direct contradiction with your claim that I discussed what ISIL wouldn't do. Get serious.

    No see it all comes down to what you said, that now you say you didn't say. Which again what all ISIS was doing was then shown to you. I am sure I am not the only that sees you don't know what the difference of offense and defense is.



    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post

    Harden defences... against what exactly? Set up civilians by key strategic facilities? Moving hostages? Lol. Were they not doing these things already? Gee, one would think that big bad ISIL would have started doing these things now that they've gotten into fights the Kurds, Jordanians, Iran-backed Shiites, etc. Wait, they're only doing it now that the US is getting involved? Lol. Get serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    No see it all comes down to what you said, that now you say you didn't say. Which again what all ISIS was doing was then shown to you. I am sure I am not the only that sees you don't know what the difference of offense and defense is.
    What... I didn't say? Ummm... I said that one would think ISIL would already be doing these things. Which you agreed if they have any military experience. What I mocked was the belief that they would be doing it only now that the US has decided to take action. You really are having trouble with this.
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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Calling it as he sees it, ok. I guess that's what every bodies doing. I think its far fetched to be making such grandiose declarations about the demise of the Islamic State in Iraq within two years. Two years ago nobody would have known what the Islamic State is, let alone that they'd be wrecking havoc across the region, burning people alive and chopping folks heads of while they're suntanning on the beach.
    They will be around for quite some time.
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