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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would appear that we agree, right. I think my post that you quoted says the same thing, if in fewer words, that you're saying.
    Are you suggesting brevity?










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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Are you suggesting brevity?
    Lol, no sir. Just wanted to be sure we were agreeing on the roll of the UN and our congresses constitutional obligations. Btw, have you ever seen the video clip of Panetta getting grilled by Sessions about what you're talking about?
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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    I want the White House and Congress to uphold the Constitution. Only Congress has the power to declare war. Of course those chicken****s won't dare do it. In the end there will be no real national commitment and veterans will get screwed again. After WWII it has happened every time.

    As per the Constitution Obama does not have the power to execute a massive counter attack. I know small government conservatives and Libertarians agree.
    the Authorized Use of Military Force, and the War Powers Act are Congress as chicken**** 100% agree

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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    So you don't know much about military tactics, nothing about logistics. Do you think that harden defenses, moving in more anti Air, setting more mines. Inside a city that has bridges and that has an underground that you laugh at the fact that defenses could be improved on from what one had set up from their beginning. Have more withdrawal points that they can fight from when looking to cut and run. A bit much for you to try and conceptualize huh? To difficult to comprehend, eh.

    Wait do you know anything about trying to stay alive when a known offensive is coming in a combat area? Anything at all?

    Yeah I get a good chuckle out of those that think they know some **** about the Military.....when they actually don't. Is that what your civilian handbook tells ya.
    The point went so far over your head you've reverted to your normal red herring strategy. The point was that ISIL has been fighting an entire contingent of groups for the better part of the last year. If they're only preparing to defend themselves against a military campaign now, they're either not as dangerous as you have them out to be or they're a bunch of dumb muslim hillbillies running around the desert. That was the point. You can't have it both ways and tell us that ISIL is a threat to the world and then suddenly turn around and tell us that they haven't been preparing for what was inevitable. Get serious.
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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    not one of those was in reference to a specific planned operation.

    general campaign information is fine by me, and most everyone else... it happens all the time.... specific operational details is a whole 'nuther matter
    Telling Saddam Hussein we're targeting him, and saying we have 120K troops moving in on Baghdad is not a reference to a specific planned operation. However telling ISIL we have 20K troops moving in on Mosul sometime in the next 2 months is a reference to a specific planned operation. As if Saddam really needed a ****ing to clue to tell him that Baghdad would be the first place the US would go to and an attack was eminent. Your acrobatics dude. They're absurd.
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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The point went so far over your head you've reverted to your normal red herring strategy. The point was that ISIL has been fighting an entire contingent of groups for the better part of the last year. If they're only preparing to defend themselves against a military campaign now, they're either not as dangerous as you have them out to be or they're a bunch of dumb muslim hillbillies running around the desert. That was the point. You can't have it both ways and tell us that ISIL is a threat to the world and then suddenly turn around and tell us that they haven't been preparing for what was inevitable. Get serious.
    No hardly could you ever get any point that could be so far over my head. Not even on your best day and with a hundred of you to make up a collective hive. NO one wasn't saying they weren't preparing. They do have those that were in the military and would follow such basic general ideas. Why one wouldn't even consider it to be a given. Is what should be noted. Especially when numbers of the forces that will be used. Are detailed out to the enemy in a room full of reporters.

    Or did that just whiz by you was you trying to look up?

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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Lol, no sir. Just wanted to be sure we were agreeing on the roll of the UN and our congresses constitutional obligations. Btw, have you ever seen the video clip of Panetta getting grilled by Sessions about what you're talking about?
    No I haven't but I'd love to see it. Can you post it?










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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    No I haven't but I'd love to see it. Can you post it?
    Defense Secretary Panetta tells Senator Sessions that military gets ...
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    Yeah, go watch this!!
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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Telling Saddam Hussein we're targeting him, and saying we have 120K troops moving in on Baghdad is not a reference to a specific planned operation. However telling ISIL we have 20K troops moving in on Mosul sometime in the next 2 months is a reference to a specific planned operation. As if Saddam really needed a ****ing to clue to tell him that Baghdad would be the first place the US would go to and an attack was eminent. Your acrobatics dude. They're absurd.
    sigh... this is going nowhere.

    I'll defer to your obvious extensive military knowledge on these matters...

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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC;106[U
    [/U]4339928]No hardly could you ever get any point that could be so far over my head. Not even on your best day and with a hundred of you to make up a collective hive. NO one wasn't saying they weren't preparing.
    Oh, you haven't been telling us that they weren't preparing for the inevitable showdown with a world class military? Interesting. Then what's the point of complaining that they now have time to prepare for something they would have been preparing for anyways? Did they not plan on being attacked by any military force in the region? Did that chubby Jordan warrior king not wake them up to the possibility of an attack by a professional military force? We told them we're moving troops 3 months ahead of time, which gives them 3 months for what exactly? Making carefully laid out of plans to defend one city as opposed to the other dozen or so targets in the area that they supposedly control? Again, the point has gone far over your head.
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