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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
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    To the bolded, hadn't heard that. Do you support that notion?


    Not really....with all given to the UN as some Authority to control it. Never!


    Islamic State not just a Western problem, says top Russian spy.....

    The head of Russia's FSB security agency said today that some 1,700 Russians are in Iraq and Syria fighting for IS forces – and that Russia and the West need to work more closely together to deal with jihadis.

    Mr. Bortnikov, who was part of the Russian delegation to the Obama administration's Summit on Countering Violent Extremism, said it's time to create a special antiterrorism center under UN auspices and for intelligence services of all countries to pool their efforts. "We are interested not only in information exchanges, but also in joint work.".....snip~

    Islamic State not just a Western problem, says top Russian spy

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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Not really....with all given to the UN as some Authority to control it. Never!


    Islamic State not just a Western problem, says top Russian spy.....

    The head of Russia's FSB security agency said today that some 1,700 Russians are in Iraq and Syria fighting for IS forces – and that Russia and the West need to work more closely together to deal with jihadis.

    Mr. Bortnikov, who was part of the Russian delegation to the Obama administration's Summit on Countering Violent Extremism, said it's time to create a special antiterrorism center under UN auspices and for intelligence services of all countries to pool their efforts. "We are interested not only in information exchanges, but also in joint work.".....snip~

    Islamic State not just a Western problem, says top Russian spy
    You mean that you prefer that "the war on terror" remain an American model?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You mean that you prefer that "the war on terror" remain an American model?
    No I didn't say that.....I said I wouldn't give Authority to the UN. Would you?

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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    No I didn't say that.....I said I wouldn't give Authority to the UN. Would you?
    Well, I mean if its not going to be with the US, where else could it be, Russia?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well, I mean if its not going to be with the US, where else could it be, Russia?
    Well it can still be Sovereign Nations working together. Doesn't take the UN's permission for anything or even informed unless needed to.

    Would you give Authority to the UN?

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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well it can still be Sovereign Nations working together. Doesn't take the UN's permission for anything or even informed unless needed to.

    Would you give Authority over the UN?
    I don't know what you mean by authority. The UN I'm regularly reminded by the right, when it's convenient, and serves to advance a meme, is that the UN hasn't any authority, the member states do, and as a collective, vote! So yeah, I'd rather there be oversight. You don't trust Obama or democrats to run the "war on terror" and I trust neither party.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Morning MMC
    Don't know that I saw that specifically. Are you referring to their use of commercial planes to conduct air attacks, I think I read somewhere? I'm not diminishing Islamic State capabilities, just don't want to see embellishment like we did in early 2003 with faulty presentation and embellishment at the UN.
    there was the beheadings of Egypt's Coptic Christians, there were airstrikes by Egypt,and Sisi declared war on ISIL.

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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    a) Tell that to ABC they did the interview. They did say Officials(plural) From a US Special Operations Command. Which included a report from a full squad that went into Raqqah Syria.
    b) So one can see how they would not name them if still operational.
    c) But now.....why would BO's own Team Lie?
    d) And how does those links help you now?
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    a) And you think the MSM doesn't lie either??? Anyways, the article smells of pro-war propaganda.

    b) Isn't that the point of the posted article? Besides, if the ISIS is such a formidable fighting group (better than the US trained Iraqi Army) how is it that this ragtag outfit, suffered so many casualties when they attacked the Iraq outpost, to quote; A field commander told reporters that the Americans were able to inflict heavy casualties on ISIS while suffering no casualties of their own - Source The Kurds are the disciplined force there. Maybe the Special Forces mistook one for the other.

    c) I'm not a democrat nor a fan of Obama. However, the reasons I don't like him are diametrically different than the rights reasons they dislike him. I see both parties as different sides of the same coin....a coin controlled by the corporations. The Republicrats also share the same mantra: "Party before country." BO lies like a rug....just like his predecessor.

    d) If you can'ttell what the significance of those links here then nothing I can say will change that.

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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    a) And you think the MSM doesn't lie either??? Anyways, the article smells of pro-war propaganda.

    b) Isn't that the point of the posted article? Besides, if the ISIS is such a formidable fighting group (better than the US trained Iraqi Army) how is it that this ragtag outfit, suffered so many casualties when they attacked the Iraq outpost, to quote; A field commander told reporters that the Americans were able to inflict heavy casualties on ISIS while suffering no casualties of their own - Source The Kurds are the disciplined force there. Maybe the Special Forces mistook one for the other.

    c) I'm not a democrat nor a fan of Obama. However, the reasons I don't like him are diametrically different than the rights reasons they dislike him. I see both parties as different sides of the same coin....a coin controlled by the corporations. The Republicrats also share the same mantra: "Party before country." BO lies like a rug....just like his predecessor.

    d) If you can'ttell what the significance of those links here then nothing I can say will change that.


    Well with all that it is up, its backs the assertion. So you have ABC, Reuters, Generals, Spec OPs, and even analysts that are not named. Which would include other sources than just ABC. Then there is your side of it.

    You also have the pros and cons of letting the enemy know what one is doing.

    You should be happy that those in Mosul are getting word and hopefully a lot of civilians will start getting out now. If they can. That is one good point.

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    re: U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

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    You guys and your fancy Humvees. When I was a MP we still drove these.

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