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Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America[W:649]

Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

tres borrachos said:
Okay, so who are all the people who say "He's not one of us", and what is it that they mean exactly? And what does it have to do with Rudy?
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C,mon Tres, it's a common meme for the far right. Palin, Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Beck etc, have all inferred that he was, is a Muslim. Watch this brief video by Michael Smerconish (a republican) He nails it.

Giuliani stands by Obama comments - CNN.com
 
CanadaJohn said:
Well, gee, doubling down on classy. Quelle surprise.
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And you attacking the messenger instead of the message. Gets in the way of your 'anybody who criticizes Obama is great' mantra. As you say, quelle surprise. But then again, being from Canada I can understand why you have no problem with draft dodgers and mob enforcers.
 
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TurtleDude said:
really? what ethnic group in the USA consistently is at the bottom in terms of educational levels achieved, HS completion and ACT/SAT scores?

and why is it the one that votes Democrat at over 95% ?
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Because the republicans are so smart they can't figure out how to include them.
 
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Hatuey said:
So he was born outside of the US? :)
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Yes, in Kenya. That's where he learned to be a Muslim. Or maybe it was Indonesia. Didn't you know?:lamo
 
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Top Cat said:
C,mon Tres, it's a common meme for the far right. Palin, Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Beck etc, have all inferred that he was, is a Muslim. Watch this brief video by Michael Smerconish (a republican) He nails it.

Giuliani stands by Obama comments - CNN.com
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It's standard meme for those on the Far Right. She knows that, she just doesn't want to admit it.
 
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Top Cat said:
Because the republicans are so smart they can't figure out how to include them.
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Its hard to include people who are told by their "leaders" that a vote for Bush means another black man lynched or a "vote for Bush" means another black college gets burned down

and if to get people to vote for you you have to offer them handouts paid for others-those of us who are forced to pay for the handouts aren't going to be very happy
 
Wiggen said:
And you attacking the messenger instead of the message. Gets in the way of your 'anybody who criticizes Obama is great' mantra. As you say, quelle surprise. But then again, being from Canada I can understand why you have no problem with draft dodgers and mob enforcers.
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Broadening it to an attack on Canadians - good job. Anyone else you want to slag? Bush maybe?
 
CanadaJohn said:
So, you criticize Guiliani for comments about the President and his family, and then you turn right around and make comments about Guiliani and his family. Classy.
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Well, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. That first stone was Rudy's. He opened himself up to this don't you agree?
 
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countryboy said:
I have no idea.
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Well, he was born in the US according to the State of Hawaii. Wouldn't that make the US his country?
 
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TurtleDude said:
really? what ethnic group in the USA consistently is at the bottom in terms of educational levels achieved, HS completion and ACT/SAT scores?

and why is it the one that votes Democrat at over 95% ?
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So now you have gone from education to ethnicity, but still no evidence of the first assertion, or any other. Looks like grasping and desperation on your part.
 
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TurtleDude said:
Its hard to include people who are told by their "leaders" that a vote for Bush means another black man lynched or a "vote for Bush" means another black college gets burned down

and if to get people to vote for you you have to offer them handouts paid for others-those of us who are forced to pay for the handouts aren't going to be very happy
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Now you are out of your ever loving soft shell.
 
Top Cat said:
Well, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. That first stone was Rudy's. He opened himself up to this don't you agree?
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I don't disagree. I'm just pointing out that those who get on their high horse and call out people for certain actions shouldn't turn around and use the same tactics unless they want to plainly show what hypocrites they are. Slag Rudy and whomever else you and Wiggens want - it's just a little rich to be crying out for others to condemn Rudy and then do the exact same thing.
 
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Top Cat said:
Now you are out of your ever loving soft shell.
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you deny those advertisements were run against Bush?
 
CanadaJohn said:
Broadening it to an attack on Canadians - good job. Anyone else you want to slag? Bush maybe?
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Hey, you make such an easy target. Some people might forget the welcome Canada gave to draft dodgers during the Vietnam War. I don't.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I don't disagree. I'm just pointing out that those who get on their high horse and call out people for certain actions shouldn't turn around and use the same tactics unless they want to plainly show what hypocrites they are. Slag Rudy and whomever else you and Wiggens want - it's just a little rich to be crying out for others to condemn Rudy and then do the exact same thing.
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Pointing out hypocrisy and that people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones never, ever gets old. Guiliani proved himself to be a horses ass, and anybody who defends him joins that club.
 
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Thrilla said:
I somewhat agree with them... in terms of Obama being more critic than supporter... he is definitely more critic than supporter, at least in his rhetoric.

as for " loving his country" .. I think it's absurd to say he doesn't love his country...I think he loves some parts of it more than others (he doesn't seem to have much use or love for the areas that didn't vote for him)... but overall he loves the country.
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What parts specifically? (BTW, you do know you can be POTUS and still advocate for changing some parts of the socio-economic/socio-political culture you believe have been ineffectual on balance and still love the country as a whole, right? Just checking...)
 
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Top Cat said:
Relevance to education your honor?
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you said the GOP wasn't smart enough to get the blacks to vote for them
 
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