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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Yep, I am.. They made mistakes too. Are you livid about President Cheney's war in Iraq, and the lies that got us there? And the problems that war has created in the ME? I'm mad about it all, and all the meddling we've done that have destabilized the region.
    I'm not following that far off topic, but I hope you are aware that most of the world believed Saddam had WMDs. In fact, they recently found a pretty big cache of hidden WMDs in Iraq.

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    Re: Giuliani, what a freak

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    Let me guess... you are one of those folks that think FDR caused Pearl Harbor on purpose just to draw us into the war right ??

    Now, on 9/11, are you a proponent of LIHOP or MIHOP ??
    To the bolded,, I'm sorry the post you quoted lacked the clarity that caused you to have to guess.
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    Re: Giuliani, what a freak

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    To the bolded,, I'm sorry the post you quoted lacked the clarity that caused you to have to guess.
    No problem... I figured you were one of those conspiracy types.

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    Re: Giuliani, what a freak

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I told you that I don't know your basic spin on it.
    My "spin" is reality. Pick up a history book one of these days.

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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    There's no shortage of press attacking Obama either.
    The press has run cover for Obama. It's how this anti-American got elected. How does someone with such thin credentials get elected? Geraldine Ferraro told us why.

    Those who doing so-called reporting have been propagandists, not reporters. Susan Roesgen was the poster child.

    Sharyl Attkisson has revealed how they operate, as had Bernie Goldberg before her.

    Journ-O-lists... that was a group of propagandists who coordinated their messages daily. That is not jounalism, that's advocacy... propaganda.

    Howard Fineman revealed this long before Obama came around, and well... they simply ramped things up when the teleprompteur reader entered the scene.

    Fineman: 'Mainstream Media Party' is over - politics - Howard Fineman | NBC News

    The 'Media Party' is over

    A political party is dying before our eyes — and I don't mean the Democrats. I'm talking about the "mainstream media,"

    The AMMP, meanwhile, is regarded with ever growing suspicion by American voters, viewers and readers, who increasingly turn for information and analysis only to non-AMMP outlets that tend to reinforce the sectarian views of discrete slices of the electorate.

    Still, the notion of a neutral, non-partisan mainstream press... it's pretty much dead... The seeds of its demise were sown with the best of intentions in the late 1960s, when the AMMP was founded in good measure (and ironically enough) by CBS.

    The crusades of Vietnam and Watergate seemed like a good idea at the time, even a noble one, not only to the press but perhaps to a majority of Americans. The problem was that, once the AMMP declared its existence by taking sides, there was no going back. A party was born.

    It was not accident that the birth coincided with an identity crisis in the Democratic Party... Into the vacuum came the AMMP, which became the new forum for choosing Democratic candidates.
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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I'm not following that far off topic, but I hope you are aware that most of the world believed Saddam had WMDs. In fact, they recently found a pretty big cache of hidden WMDs in Iraq.
    Gill I don't give a **** what the 'rest of the world' believed. Bush and Cheney had hard evidence he no longer had WMD's. And they 100% knew he had nothing to do with 9/11, yet they and their henchmen kept saying he did. They lied, pure and simple.

    And BTW that 'large cache' were weapons were from the 80's, they were rusted and unusable when we found them in 2004. The reason Bush's Admin didn't tell us about them was because they were unusable and they were proof of yet another lie because Bush had told us that Iraq had an active weapons of mass destruction program, but finding those rusted weapons was proof they had no active program. Again, another lie and were no threat to us or anyone else.

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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Gill I don't give a **** what the 'rest of the world' believed. Bush and Cheney had hard evidence he no longer had WMD's. And they 100% knew he had nothing to do with 9/11, yet they and their henchmen kept saying he did. They lied, pure and simple.

    And BTW that 'large cache' were weapons were from the 80's, they were rusted and unusable when we found them in 2004. The reason Bush's Admin didn't tell us about them was because they were unusable and they were proof of yet another lie because Bush had told us that Iraq had an active weapons of mass destruction program, but finding those rusted weapons was proof they had no active program. Again, another lie and were no threat to us or anyone else.
    Are you sure about that ??

    The analysis of sarin samples from 2005 found that the purity level reached 13 percent — higher than expected given the relatively low quality and instability of Iraq’s sarin production in the 1980s, officials said. Samples from Boraks recovered in 2004 had contained concentrations no higher than 4 percent.

    The new data became grounds for concern. “Borak rockets will be more hazardous than previously assessed,” one internal report noted. It added a warning: the use of a Borak in an improvised bomb “could effectively disperse the sarin nerve agent.”

    An internal record from 2006 referred to “agent purity of up to 25 percent for recovered unitary sarin weapons.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/16/wo...pons.html?_r=0

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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Yes, I am. If this was a real threat and proof of an active WMD program Bush and Cheney would have been shouting it from the mountaintops. But they didn't, they hid it from the American public. And even your own link admits that this Iraqi special weapons program was abandoned long before the 2003 invasion. It wasn't an active program. Bush lied.

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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I'm not following that far off topic, but I hope you are aware that most of the world believed Saddam had WMDs. In fact, they recently found a pretty big cache of hidden WMDs in Iraq.
    Most of the world believed that because of the bull**** propaganda that the bush admin spread.
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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Most of the world believed that because of the bull**** propaganda that the bush admin spread.
    Yeah, intelligence agencies from each of the world's major countries base their intelligence on what Bush said.


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