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Thread: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America[W:649]

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    Re: Giuliani, what a freak

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    So you are a elitist? Good to know.
    What? An elitist? Explain.

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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    C,mon Tres, it's a common meme for the far right. Palin, Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Beck etc, have all inferred that he was, is a Muslim.
    What's wrong with being a Muslim?

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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Sounds to me what you're saying is, "Hate the sin, not the sinner". Here's how I equate your above comments with this common Christian refrain...

    (Disclaimer: The following is not intended to go off tangent and rehash the issue of gay marriage or homosexuality in general. It's only an attempt to expand on quoted commentary as expressed above.)

    If I don't like what someone is doing (i.e., homosexuals) but I believe firmly in equal rights, then I'll certainly condemn the behavior (i.e., homosexuality) but fight to protect their rights to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" alongside their right to "equal protection under the law". I don't necessarily have to like what gays and lesbians do publicly or privately, but I do have to respect their rights to choose a life (and a lifestyle) that makes them happy and to share in that happiness with whomever they so please (as long as such is a consenting adult). The same thing could be said of the President's attempts to invoke changes in social and/or economic policies that have proven to exclude some while lifting up others. That said, I can love the ideals of capitalism that have helped make America one of, if not THE, greatest country on Earth, but I can hate the greed and underhandedness such dangerous and/or misguided economic policies have wroth unto the massive where so few have so much and so many have so little.

    There is this pervasive inequity and unfairness that has taken root in this country where so many are left behind and so few have a chance to succeed. And while there are some people who are lazy and do want handouts and believe that they are deserving of such, there are also so many more who have come to realize that "the system of things" just hasn't worked for them despite their honorable intentions and willingness to play by the rules and do good work. These are the folks who are being squeezed in the middle - the people who see the "Robin Hood Affect" in full effect - but it's their labor that makes this possible and yet it is those at the very top and the very bottom who are reaping the benefits of their efforts.

    The system needs to be changed.
    I understand your point, but I don't see how any of it has to do with his personal opinion on the people I'm talking about.

    he has made it clear he doesn't like the folks who , in his words "cling to their bibles and guns and antipathy of people who aren't like them".. his chastisement is a matter of public record.
    like most other humans, he doesn't give 2 flying ****s about people who disagree with him .. there's no love there.

    most everyone will say they love the country, and I rarely doubt that sentiment... but most everyone will also harbor ill feelings towards certain people and certain cultures within our borders...Obama is no different, he's not a special snowflake.

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    re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America[W:649]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    The difference being Guiliani's family is characterized by criminals and draft dodgers, as well as Rudy himself, who had lots of trouble keeping it in his pants. But I don't expect you to understand the difference.
    Wiggen, I see you making brilliant posts in other areas and posts like this on domestic issues. Where is the Wiggen I thought I knew???

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    re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America[W:649]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Broadening it to an attack on Canadians - good job. Anyone else you want to slag? Bush maybe?
    They do get hissy when it's suggested that the Big O doesn't love his country, oui? They still haven't awakened to noticed the $20 bill on the dresser.

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    Re: Giuliani, what a freak

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    If i was Walker.. I would repeat this response for every irrelevant question asked of him... or maybe change it just a bit to " I don't know, and I don't care"

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    Re: Giuliani, what a freak

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Its impossible for Liberals to leave the race card up their sleeve.
    He's obviously got something against Italians.

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    Re: Giuliani, what a freak

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Does Obama's religion matter to you?

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    Re: Giuliani, what a freak

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Like I said, those southern democrats are the republicans of today. We both know it.
    Actually, no. The Democrats of today are the Democrats of yesterday. It's still the same part and always has been.

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    re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America[W:649]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Wiggen, I see you making brilliant posts in other areas and posts like this on domestic issues. Where is the Wiggen I thought I knew???
    this is the Wiggen you know....it's the Wiggen everybody knows.

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