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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    There's no more reason to associate Walker with Giuliani's words than there is to associate Hillary Clinton with the words of any idiot Democrat. I don't know why Walker would have a right to take Giuliani to task for his words. Giuliani owns his words, and nobody else.

    Saying stupid things and having to walk them back seem to be a pattern among politicians. This will be front page news until the next one makes stupid comments, or some kid falls down a well.

    Too bad, I like Rudy too. I just think he's been around long enough to know he shouldn't make a statement about what he thinks is in someone else's mind or heart.
    It would appear I've failed to make my point. I'll personalise it, maybe that will help. If I'm the potential presidential candidate at a smallish meeting of supporters, and a somewhat heavy hitter like Giuliani has been invited because I know my supporters respect him and would appreciate seeing him support me, and he got up and said that, I'm mortified, and really pissed, and I'm in the back corner or back room afterward saying, "thanks a lot Rudy".
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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would appear I've failed to make my point. I'll personalise it, maybe that will help. If I'm the potential presidential candidate at a smallish meeting of supporters, and a somewhat heavy hitter like Giuliani has been invited because I know my supporters respect him and would appreciate seeing him support me, and he got up and said that, I'm mortified, and really pissed, and I'm in the back corner or back room afterward saying, "thanks a lot Rudy".
    I understood you the first time. I'll personalize it too. I'm not like you. I don't judge a candidate based on what someone else says. I also don't worry about what other people say in my presence. I stand on my own merits. I doubt anyone who is considering supporting Walker would not continue to support Walker based on what Giuliani said. He isn't the candidate in the room.
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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I understood you the first time. I'll personalize it too. I'm not like you. I don't judge a candidate based on what someone else says. I also don't worry about what other people say in my presence. I stand on my own merits. I doubt anyone who is considering supporting Walker would not continue to support Walker based on what Giuliani said. He isn't the candidate in the room.
    Oh, I see. And you presume to speak for everyone, lol. What a crock of ****. You'd have a fit if you were Scott Walker, and distance yourself as much as possible, or refuse to comment, as Walker thinks he's going to get away with.
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    re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America[W:649]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh, I see. And you presume to speak for everyone, lol. What a crock of ****. You'd have a fit if you were Scott Walker, and distance yourself as much as possible, or refuse to comment, as Walker thinks he's going to get away with.
    Scott Walker said Obama didn't love his Country ?

    How is this about Scott Walker again ?

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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh, I see. And you presume to speak for everyone, lol. What a crock of ****. You'd have a fit if you were Scott Walker, and distance yourself as much as possible, or refuse to comment, as Walker thinks he's going to get away with.
    Someone (you) who wasn't going to vote for Walker anyway thinks that Walker is going to try to "get away with" something. He isn't Rudy Giuliani. He's Scott Walker. No reasonable non-partisan person thinks that Walker has any ownership for Rudy's words. He doesn't. And when I said "I'll personalize it too.", that actually means I don't speak for everyone. It means I speak for myself.

    By the way, you're speaking for Scott Walker. You're deciding what he should feel about it, and what he should do. I doubt he's interested in doing what liberals want him to do. Just a guess.
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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    “I do not believe, and I know this is a horrible thing to say, but I do not believe that the president loves America,” Giuliani said during the dinner at the 21 Club, a former Prohibition-era speakeasy in midtown Manhattan. “He doesn’t love you. And he doesn’t love me. He wasn’t brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up through love of this country.”

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    Seems to me he's got no other office to run for so he can say any idiotic thing he wants. But Scott Walker was in the room, and he would like to be the next president, lol. Why people think they can say **** like this when they're in private meetings in a day when everyone has a phone with audio and video capabilities.

    Here's a quick quiz:
    1) Who promised to fundamentally transform the United States?
    ( ) Barack Obama
    ( ) Rudy Giuliani


    Short essay question for extra credit:
    Why would you want to fundamentally transform something you love?
    IF SOMETHING EXPLAINS EVERYTHING, IT EXPLAINS NOTHING.

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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

    Funny. He criticize Obama for not loving his country, yet won't criticize members of his own party for talking about succeeding from the US.

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    Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would appear I've failed to make my point. I'll personalise it, maybe that will help. If I'm the potential presidential candidate at a smallish meeting of supporters, and a somewhat heavy hitter like Giuliani has been invited because I know my supporters respect him and would appreciate seeing him support me, and he got up and said that, I'm mortified, and really pissed, and I'm in the back corner or back room afterward saying, "thanks a lot Rudy".
    Interesting point. Be patient. Sometimes it takes 20 years or more.

    "... ' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people," he said in a 2003 sermon. "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme." - Jeremiah Wright as reported by ABC NEWS

    And sometimes it neeeever quite gets there.

    "Sen. Obama told the New York Times he was not at the church on the day of Rev. Wright's 9/11 sermon." - ABC NEWS
    IF SOMETHING EXPLAINS EVERYTHING, IT EXPLAINS NOTHING.

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    re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America[W:649]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Scott Walker said Obama didn't love his Country ?

    How is this about Scott Walker again ?
    You were reasonable enough to condemn what Giuliani said. Do you think Scott Walker is going to continue to have no comment, or do you think reason will eventually prevail with him, hmm?
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