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Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America[W:649]

Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

What is reasonable about claiming that Obama has governed in the footsteps of all the "radicals" he has known, when so many of them have criticized his administration for NOT listening to them ?

There are no historians who believe Obama to be a radical president. None. We won't count the crackpot David Barton, if you don't mind.

For six years we have listened to the same s**t from you people. Enough is enough.
 
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Theres no love. Theres no competency. Theres no strategy. This guy skated through life getting everything handed to him, and than later being a community organizer. He grew up with distorted views of America.

From his view, America is getting its medicine and thats a good thing. At this stage, I can't blame things merely on his being incompetent. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and he's not.

There will be more of this to come, hes a lame duck and does not care what others think.

If you track back to his Senate career you see an interesting phenomenon ...

He was handed the seat and what did he do with it? Did he help his constituents? No, it was a spring board to the White House, that's all.

Then look at his campaign and the first two years. I don't know about this forum, but getting a criticism in sideways on this guy was not really possible. The as time went by, his defenders have trickled to a few, his complete majority squandered on a lie of "you can keep your plan" and now, the entire congress arrayed against him....and he calls them the enemy refusing to change or negotiate.

As I said last November, get comfortable Obamaland, the ugliness is just beginning. He is incorrigible on all levels, too arrogant to allow anyone else the limelight even for a second and ask your self, based on work experience, does he have support? The recalcitrant never has support and he is recalcitrant, his ideas have all gone bust, his rhetoric has been exposed as bull**** and now he hides behind false flag issues like the name of the terrorists trying to destroy the American way of life.

The hard times for this arrogant, strutting creep have only just begun
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

If you track back to his Senate career you see an interesting phenomenon ...

He was handed the seat and what did he do with it? Did he help his constituents? No, it was a spring board to the White House, that's all.

Then look at his campaign and the first two years. I don't know about this forum, but getting a criticism in sideways on this guy was not really possible. The as time went by, his defenders have trickled to a few, his complete majority squandered on a lie of "you can keep your plan" and now, the entire congress arrayed against him....and he calls them the enemy refusing to change or negotiate.

As I said last November, get comfortable Obamaland, the ugliness is just beginning. He is incorrigible on all levels, too arrogant to allow anyone else the limelight even for a second and ask your self, based on work experience, does he have support? The recalcitrant never has support and he is recalcitrant, his ideas have all gone bust, his rhetoric has been exposed as bull**** and now he hides behind false flag issues like the name of the terrorists trying to destroy the American way of life.

The hard times for this arrogant, strutting creep have only just begun

Its too bad he has to drag America down with him.
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

Thats why while I will extend a serious question to him, he's never able to substantively respond. At least here he admits it.
Kobie should address why Obama not loving America is such a prevalent view.

It's only a prevalent view in the conservative bubble. That's why it seems expansive to you.

In the real world, not so much.
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

There are no historians who believe Obama to be a radical president. None. We won't count the crackpot David Barton, if you don't mind.
You feel Obama is already history?? If only!
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

What is reasonable about claiming that Obama has governed in the footsteps of all the "radicals" he has known, when so many of them have criticized his administration for NOT listening to them ?

There are no historians who believe Obama to be a radical president. None. We won't count the crackpot David Barton, if you don't mind.

For six years we have listened to the same s**t from you people. Enough is enough.


What your crackpot leftist historians think changes nothing.

I've been listening to the same s**t from anti-American commies for a lot longer than six years, and I was sick of their propaganda a long time ago. But none of these disloyal liars had ever been elected president until six years ago.
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

I do. I think most Americans want to support the POTUS-but he makes that nearly impossible, apparently except for the true believers.

I would say you are partially correct. Most Americans - if you deduct the hard core Republicans from that number - do want the President to succeed. I think most Republicans have prayed that he fail since noon on January 20th, 2009.
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

Right, it can't have anything to do with his arrogance, lies, lackluster achievements, or the world burning as he takes selfies, can it?

All while many lefties proclaimed they voted for him to vote for the first black potus. :doh

No, as far as people of your political persuasion are concerned, it's pretty much because he's black. You started your birth certificate Tea Party bull**** on day one of his presidency and you've never let up. After all, he's really not one of you, is he?
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

Of course the "historians" won't label him far left. They are even further left than he is.

Let's face it - anybody who believes in the 14th amendment is left of you.
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

If you track back to his Senate career you see an interesting phenomenon ...

He was handed the seat and what did he do with it? Did he help his constituents? No, it was a spring board to the White House, that's all.

Then look at his campaign and the first two years. I don't know about this forum, but getting a criticism in sideways on this guy was not really possible. The as time went by, his defenders have trickled to a few, his complete majority squandered on a lie of "you can keep your plan" and now, the entire congress arrayed against him....and he calls them the enemy refusing to change or negotiate.

As I said last November, get comfortable Obamaland, the ugliness is just beginning. He is incorrigible on all levels, too arrogant to allow anyone else the limelight even for a second and ask your self, based on work experience, does he have support? The recalcitrant never has support and he is recalcitrant, his ideas have all gone bust, his rhetoric has been exposed as bull**** and now he hides behind false flag issues like the name of the terrorists trying to destroy the American way of life.

The hard times for this arrogant, strutting creep have only just begun

If anyone handed him the Senate election to him, it would be the Republicans. They put up an extreme right winger black man who also was carpetbagger up against him. Alan Keyes is his name.

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Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

What your crackpot leftist historians think changes nothing.

I've been listening to the same s**t from anti-American commies for a lot longer than six years, and I was sick of their propaganda a long time ago. But none of these disloyal liars had ever been elected president until six years ago.

Wow - 'American Commies'. Haven't heard that one in a long time. Congratulations.

Oh, by the way, the 20th century ended about 15 years ago. The 1950's ended about 55 years ago. You need some new buzz words. Otherwise you sound like a dork.
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

No, as far as people of your political persuasion are concerned, it's pretty much because he's black. You started your birth certificate Tea Party bull**** on day one of his presidency and you've never let up. After all, he's really not one of you, is he?

It has nothing to do with him being black-it has to do with his being wrong.

On the flip side, Ive heard people say they specifically voted for Obama because he's black-I find that quite racist.
 
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It has nothing to do with him being black-it has to do with his being wrong.

On the flip side, Ive heard people say they specifically voted for Obama because he's black-I find that quite racist.

This is, of course, laughable. There is a laundry list of people in the "tea party" and political right community who have made racially offensive comments and images about President Obama. A simple search of text and images on Google or Bing will show this definitively.

I will assume you are not among them.

There are MANY people who oppose Obama BECAUSE he is black. Only a fool would deny that.

As for people who voted FOR him because of his race, no doubt it occurred. How would you look yourself in the mirror if you had fought for civil rights all your life , and then the first viable black presidential candidate comes along and you turn away.

Obama is an HISTORIC president. It is a hard swallow for a lot of right wingers who wished the day would never come, but it came.
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

I would say you are partially correct. Most Americans - if you deduct the hard core Republicans from that number - do want the President to succeed. I think most Republicans have prayed that he fail since noon on January 20th, 2009.

His policies have failed. We knew they would. Too bad he never changed course, eh?
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

This is, of course, laughable. There is a laundry list of people in the "tea party" and political right community who have made racially offensive comments and images about President Obama. A simple search of text and images on Google or Bing will show this definitively.

I will assume you are not among them.

There are MANY people who oppose Obama BECAUSE he is black. Only a fool would deny that.

As for people who voted FOR him because of his race, no doubt it occurred. How would you look yourself in the mirror if you had fought for civil rights all your life , and then the first viable black presidential candidate comes along and you turn away.

Obama is an HISTORIC president. It is a hard swallow for a lot of right wingers who wished the day would never come, but it came.

And there are probably many more who are for him because he's black. He's not failing because he's black-he's failing because he's a piss poor leader who can't get things done.

Even the blame game he and his supporters try (Bush!!!!!) is a tacit admitting that he has failed.

We agree he's historic-I think he's historically bad.
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

This is, of course, laughable. There is a laundry list of people in the "tea party" and political right community who have made racially offensive comments and images about President Obama. A simple search of text and images on Google or Bing will show this definitively.

I will assume you are not among them.

There are MANY people who oppose Obama BECAUSE he is black. Only a fool would deny that.

As for people who voted FOR him because of his race, no doubt it occurred. How would you look yourself in the mirror if you had fought for civil rights all your life , and then the first viable black presidential candidate comes along and you turn away.

Obama is an HISTORIC president. It is a hard swallow for a lot of right wingers who wished the day would never come, but it came.

Name them.

Talk about conspiracy theories...

We have gone from "Obama will fix everything" to "It's Bush's fault", "enemies" to blaming all his screw ups on a cabal of "Tea Partiers"..

I guess Sarah plain gets the last laugh after all....

Well, she should, she is five or six times smarter than Obama...

Damn that Tea Party is powerful. I thought the Obamameme was they were dead.
 
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Name them.

Talk about conspiracy theories...

We have gone from "Obama will fix everything" to "It's Bush's fault", "enemies" to blaming all his screw ups on a cabal of "Tea Partiers"..

I guess Sarah plain gets the last laugh after all....

Well, she should, she is five or six times smarter than Obama...

Damn that Tea Party is powerful. I thought the Obamameme was they were dead.

I don't remember anyone claiming that "Obama will fix everything." No one person can.

Sarah Palin gets the last laugh? What on earth does that even mean?
 
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I don't remember anyone claiming that "Obama will fix everything." No one person can.

Sarah Palin gets the last laugh? What on earth does that even mean?

Obama was going to stop the oceans from rising, Kobie. Im sure you remember.
 
EVERY birther is racist. Every person who chose ,this time, to wonder whether a presidential candidate was born in the US, AND carry on with it for YEARS after the 'controversy' had been addressed and addressed and addressed. In 2012 a South Carolina tea party candidate for Congress told his audience that when HE was elected to Congress, he was going to send Obama back to Kenya.

Are you going to stand here with a straight face and tell us that was not racially motivated ?

What about Trump, demanding to see the birth certificate of the President of the United States after he had been in office for four years, and then saying the President was too busy "playing basketball" to produce his college transcripts.

No race motivation for Trump either, I suppose. How long has your head been in the sand?
 
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Obama was going to stop the oceans from rising, Kobie. Im sure you remember.


"....when we ended a war and secured our nation..."

Now, in light of videos of babies being decapitated, women and children slaughtered and increasing threats against the US and Canada because we are fighting there too....

in light of that, I find that video the most depressing ****ing video I have seen of any American president.

"The oceans will stop rising and the earth began to heal..."

Mr. Obama may think he knows what is a Muslim, but he thinks he's God
 
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That's not what I said.

Right you are....you said you no longer have serious discussions...


You admit you troll, why should I or anyone else even read your ****, you're not serious and admit it
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

I would say you are partially correct. Most Americans - if you deduct the hard core Republicans from that number - do want the President to succeed. I think most Republicans have prayed that he fail since noon on January 20th, 2009.
If that was true then it would certainly demonstrate the power of prayer.
 
2010 Washington Post column

On Saturday, the National Tea Party Federation announced it had expelled one of the movement's most prominent figures -- a California blowhard named Mark Williams -- because of the outrageously racist things he had said about the NAACP. Ejected along with Williams was his whole organization, Tea Party Express, which had been a particularly active, high-profile group.

The last straw was a "satirical" letter that Williams, a former right-wing talk radio host, posted on his Web site. It was supposed to be a missive from NAACP President Ben Jealous to Abraham Lincoln, and the Tea Party Federation deemed it "clearly offensive." With good reason.

Here is one passage: "We Colored People have taken a vote and decided that we don't cotton to that whole emancipation thing. Freedom means having to work for real, think for ourselves, and take consequences along with the rewards. That is just far too much to ask of us Colored People and we demand that it stop!"

Amazingly, it gets worse:

"Perhaps the most racist point of all in the tea parties is their demand that government 'stop raising our taxes.' That is outrageous! How will we coloreds ever get a wide-screen TV in every room if non-coloreds get to keep what they earn? Totally racist! The tea party expects coloreds to be productive members of society? Mr. Lincoln, you were the greatest racist ever. We had a great gig. Three squares, room and board, all our decisions made by the massa in the house. Please repeal the 13th and 14th Amendments and let us get back to where we belong."

That's not satire, it's hate speech.

Eugene Robinson - The Tea Party must purge racism from its ranks
 
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