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Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

so you've been a worker all your life.. good for you.

you can, at any time, provide substantiation to your claim that Wal Mart capitulated to unions.... your opinion is not substantiation.

then why do you keep lying about them?

Now you're just being a combative and baiting contrarian. You haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about. The OP tells the true story, as I have I and I'm no longer going to entertain your nonsense. When you start posting substantive points that progress a discussion I'll respond.
 
Now you're just being a combative and baiting contrarian. You haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about. The OP tells the true story, as I have I and I'm no longer going to entertain your nonsense. When you start posting substantive points that progress a discussion I'll respond.

combative against a person lying about what i believe or what my position is?.. you're damn skippy I am.... why would I not be?

I would like nothing more than for you to stick to substantive points... but you don't have a history of doing such, so i won't hold my breath
 
Both on line and through ABC news we learn that walmart has capitulated:


Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise


For some time in these discussions about walmart abuses and organizing drives I predicted that the pressure would defeat them. Within a year the starting wage at walmart will be $10 an hour. This will of course increase the strength of the organizing drive and have a good effect on the drives for Mcdonald's as well.

Nice work.

let's see
of the 1.4 million walmart workers, how many are now union members?
 
Nevermind, it seems to difficult a concept for you.

Well, you don't know what you're talking about then dude. $10 bucks an hour, as a full time 40 hour a week salary adds up to what I I say it does. So if you can't explain your arcane concepts, then don't tell me ME I won't get it. YOU will just have to accept the fact that you're making an inane assertion.
 
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You have no idea what you're talking about.

walmart has been under public pressure and a large union organizing drive for some time due to their pay abuses and employees having to file for public assistance - as suggested by walmart. walmart has cracked under the pressure and is being jerked into reality. So good for the organizing drive.

It would be foolish to believe such a thing. They are just reacting to the market place, that is all. And if you think the left will let up one bit and stop calling Walmart a villian, you are dreaming. They will continue as usual.
 
It would be foolish to believe such a thing. They are just reacting to the market place, that is all. And if you think the left will let up one bit and stop calling Walmart a villian, you are dreaming. They will continue as usual.

Walmart is capitulating to pressure. The organizing drives are getting stronger and stronger and they are going to increase in size and intensity: it's the only defense that the average working man has against economic tyranny.
 
Well, you don't know what you're talking about then dude. $10 bucks an hour, as a full time 40 hour a week salary adds up to what I I say it does. So if you can't explain your arcane concepts, then don't tell me ME I won't get it. YOU will just have to accept the fact that you're making an inane assertion.

I asked you about the extra money these workers will make and if it is worth it to join the union. Extra means above and beyond what they are already making.

It is not a hard concept to grasp.
 
So basically you are just reducing the opportunity to trade with national level firms. Wouldn't that permanently eliminate the possibility of any new investment into the area, esentially making the dead zone even deader? And if someone was going to pay me with Declanville Dollars, but I needed US dollars to spend on Amazon, then regardless of any pegging, I still wouldn't value those Declanville Dollars as much as federal reserve dollars.

No because companies still take dollars. It isn't like Declanville can ban the US Dollar. Alt currencies supplement, not replace, the existing currencies. It just means that if you buy a pie from me for 5.00 Decks, I'll be spending that money at a local owned business that takes them instead of at Amazon.
 
Someone who works 40 hours a week, with no additional income, should be able to afford the necessary basics for quality of life, health care, transport, food, shelter, utilities, and minimal recreation.

That amount is?
 
What is the cost of living where you are? What would be the bare minimum amount that you would need to survive where you are, without any welfare?

You tell us.
 
Should be based around the cost of living of the community.

I disagree.

I think it should be set to be somewhat higher than a person would get by living off of government largess. People who work should have more than people who don't.

IMHO, that is.
 
I disagree.

I think it should be set to be somewhat higher than a person would get by living off of government largess. People who work should have more than people who don't.

IMHO, that is.

I agree thats why i sad: " 40 hours a week, with no additional income, should be able to afford the necessary basics for quality of life, health care, transport, food, shelter, utilities, and minimal recreation."
 
Uh, no. walmart capitulated to the pressure and git jerked into the real world.
You are speaking of that which you do not know.
There was no capitulation or gitting[sic] jerked.





Not at all.
Yes, you were obviously confused.


Yea by you.
Of course by me.


And you have yet to respond with anything other than blinded accusations.
Not so. So stop with the dishonesty.


No. you claimed I held my opinion based off little to no reasoning. I then posted a study that backs up my opinion with factual information, and several studies.
:naughty
No. You said it was based on your own multiple opinions. Not on Berkeley which you later introduces as deflection away from your previous statements.
You clearly said ...
"My views on morality, my political opinions, and belief in a strong livable wage"


What about it?
~ see above reply ~
Those are your words quoted above, and they do not at any time mention anything other than your opinion. Not Berkeley.


this is what we call a logical fallacy. This one you are holding is called "poisoning the well". Its a variation of an ad hominem
Whether you think it is a logical fallacy or an ad hom is irrelevant to the reality that it is reason to dismiss it outright.


Hmm.. I find this very funny of you. You hold the exact opposite of my opinion, but you say my opinion "fanciful imagination."
:doh
No. I hold to reality which is the opposite of a fanciful imagination.


So back to your original nonsensical statement. You haven't shown they deserve any such thing. Or didn't you know there is a difference between deserve and desire?
Except I did, but you dismissed it.
Your dishonest reply is dishonest.
You haven't shown they deserve any such thing. Nor could you.
There is a difference between deserve and desire.
 
Walmart is capitulating to pressure. The organizing drives are getting stronger and stronger and they are going to increase in size and intensity: it's the only defense that the average working man has against economic tyranny.

No, they really aren't getting stronger. And with this move, unionization is dead. Like I said, they are just a company, and they react to the market. For them, besides reacting to market wages, they are also disarming the left's big, bad Walmart argument. This is a benefit for whoever the Republican nominee is. One less talking point for the left. And good advertising for Walmart.
 
I disagree.

I think it should be set to be somewhat higher than a person would get by living off of government largess. People who work should have more than people who don't.

IMHO, that is.

And the best way to do that is to cut government welfare. It should only be the bare minimum, and only for those that truly need it. Not a tool for the democrats to buy votes.
 
I agree thats why i sad: " 40 hours a week, with no additional income, should be able to afford the necessary basics for quality of life, health care, transport, food, shelter, utilities, and minimal recreation."

Correct, with no government subsidies.
 
No, they really aren't getting stronger. And with this move, unionization is dead. Like I said, they are just a company, and they react to the market. For them, besides reacting to market wages, they are also disarming the left's big, bad Walmart argument. This is a benefit for whoever the Republican nominee is. One less talking point for the left. And good advertising for Walmart.

No, it's proof that organizing drives work...
 
No, it's proof that organizing drives work...

it's proof Doug McMillon was serious about increasing wages ...like he said when he was first hired as CEO.

sorry man, you can't give unions credit for this one... unions had exactly nothing to do with it.
 
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