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Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

DVSentinel said:
Ah! Now I know why the self-check out areas at the local Walmarts have been doubled lately. And why fewer checkout lanes have been being maned.
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I suspect that has more to do with consumer demand for self-check out areas, or maybe just a way to start training customers to get used to self checkout.

I really wouldn't think that Walmart would fire cashiers just for the purpose of voluntarily giving raises, that doesn't even make sense. Everything that Walmart does is about making larger profits, period.
 
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sangha said:
regardless of what you experience, most new jobs are part time, not full time..
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That is true and easy to back up.

Our conversation was based on comparing my experience with his in Britain.
 
sangha said:
Right wingers have faith in the absurd notion that business are keeping prices low and so they believe businesses can raise prices at will. Rational people know that businesses already are pricing their products at the level which produces the most profit.
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No, pricing is based on competitive pressure. Doesn't matter how much it cost you to produce and sell something if the guy down the road is selling the same thing for 20% less.
 
sangha said:
Right wingers have faith in the absurd notion that business are keeping prices low and so they believe businesses can raise prices at will. Rational people know that businesses already are pricing their products at the level which produces the most profit.
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I call bullsh%t.
No right winger I know believes any such thing. I would say as a general rule right wingers know far more about how businesses operate than left wingers.
 
HenryChinaski said:
A livable wage is one where an individual doesn't have to be on the dole in order to meet bare bone daily life necessities.
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please answer the question what's a livable wage. 10 20 30 50 dollars an hour please actually define living wage.
 
jet57 said:
Both on line and through ABC news we learn that walmart has capitulated:


Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise


For some time in these discussions about walmart abuses and organizing drives I predicted that the pressure would defeat them. Within a year the starting wage at walmart will be $10 an hour. This will of course increase the strength of the organizing drive and have a good effect on the drives for Mcdonald's as well.

Nice work.
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I hope the Walmart employees who will be laid off can find some solace in their sacrifice.
 
Excon said:
Deserve? Where do yo come up with such nonsense?
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TDS was filing cabinets filled with employee profiles of these 500,000 Walmart employees, apparently.

I don't know that I have ever met a Walmart empoloyee worth $10.00 and hour.
 
ludin said:
please answer the question what's a livable wage. 10 20 30 50 dollars an hour please actually define living wage.
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What is the cost of living where you are? What would be the bare minimum amount that you would need to survive where you are, without any welfare?
 
HenryChinaski said:
What is the cost of living where you are? What would be the bare minimum amount that you would need to survive where you are, without any welfare?
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The cost of living is not a single number.
 
Manc Skipper said:
That was history. Today, a job is a job, even with no guarantee of any hours. The much-vaunted reduction in unemployment in Britain, almost exactly matches the rise in zero-hours contracts. A new full-time job is a rarity.
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Thanks, Obama.
 
Gill said:
The cost of living is not a single number.
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No ****, The cost of living varies from region to region, from state to state and city to city. It would be impossible for an individual to cover the basics here in Chi-town (Rent, public transportation money and basic food) on anything less than $10 an hour.
 
HenryChinaski said:
No ****, The cost of living varies from region to region, from state to state and city to city. It would be impossible for an individual to cover the basics here in Chi-town (Rent, public transportation money and basic food) on anything less than $10 an hour.
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Then why did you ask for the "cost of living" number ???

Wait, let me guess.... you were trying to make a point and failed miserably.
 
jet57 said:
Uh, no. walmart capitulated to the pressure and git jerked into the real world. This will only be good for walmart in the long run.
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I think the crowing about Walmart's capitulation is rather premature. Will you still crow if Walmart starts laying off employees within the next year?

I find it funny when the spread the wealth crowd is happier with one employee making $10 an hour than they are with two employees making $7.
 
Gill said:
Then why did you ask for the "cost of living" number ???

Wait, let me guess.... you were trying to make a point and failed miserably.
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Again, what is the cost of living where you live? What would be the bare minimum amount of money that an individual would need to pay for bare bones basic every day needs?
 
HenryChinaski said:
Again, what is the cost of living where you live? What would be the bare minimum amount of money that an individual would need to pay for bare bones basic every day needs?
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To many variables to claim a single number.
 
Gill said:
No, pricing is based on competitive pressure. Doesn't matter how much it cost you to produce and sell something if the guy down the road is selling the same thing for 20% less.
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I think you are in agreeance with sangha (and myself).
 
KLATTU said:
I call bullsh%t.
No right winger I know believes any such thing. I would say as a general rule right wingers know far more about how businesses operate than left wingers.
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They do that all the time when they make the claim that all increases in costs are passed on to the consumer and when they claim that lower costs automatically mean lower prices.

But I'm glad that you agree that prices are set by competitive pressures.
 
ludin said:
a question they can never answer. I asked it a dozen times and still don't get an answer.
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HenryChinaski answered that question, before you even posted.
 
ludin said:
please answer the question what's a livable wage. 10 20 30 50 dollars an hour please actually define living wage.
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That depends on the price of stuff.

Sometimes I think that maybe we should get away from valuing stuff in dollars, and start valuing it in work hours. Obviously, the phrase "living wage" is going to be somewhat subjective, and may vary depending on location, and exactly how well we expect someone to be able to live. Someone who's compensation package includes great insurance totally paid for by the employer obviously doesn't need as high of a per hour salary.
 
jmotivator said:
I hope the Walmart employees who will be laid off can find some solace in their sacrifice.
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I must have missed the layoffs in the article. Can you show me exactly where it said that Walmart was going to have to lay off employees in order to offer a slightly better wage?
 
jmotivator said:
TDS was filing cabinets filled with employee profiles of these 500,000 Walmart employees, apparently.

I don't know that I have ever met a Walmart empoloyee worth $10.00 and hour.
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"Worth" is subjective. If an employee can create $12/hr in production, then they are certainly "worth" $10/hr.

A typical cashier can check out about 20 people an hour. What's it worth to walmart to be able to conduct an average size transaction (my guess around $100)? A dollar, ten dollars, a half dollar? I dunno, but Walmart knows, and they will pay their employees less than that amount. If Walmart pays a mininimum wage of $10/hr, the value of that employee to Walmart is obviously higher than $10/hr.

You really come across as nasty and negative and mean and angry towards people, maybe you should lighten up a little. Life is too short to live every minute in anger.
 
Gill said:
The cost of living is not a single number.
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Sure, I agree. So why are some posters pressing for a particular fixed number?
 
i advocate that no one shop at Walmart or fast food business, shutting them down and putting anyone out of a job.:mrgreen:
 
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