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    Re: Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    When they start making $10 an hour they won't have to get public assistance and shop at the dented can store.
    Maybe, but the people that work in hundreds of other stores that pay MW will.

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    Re: Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Maybe, but the people that work in hundreds of other stores that pay MW will.
    The idea is to fix minimum wage isn't it. Adults should not be making minimum wage. They should make a prevailing wage that allows them to support themselves. Minimum wage used to be a great start for kids getting into the work market. Companies, like mcdonalds and walmart however have taken advantage of minimum wage and now we see the results.
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    Re: Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I'm not sure what your sarcasm is supposed to be saying here.
    Truth, as all sarcasm says.

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    Re: Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

    If a business wants to attract talent and keep them, they need to cough up some money. Hopefully Wal-Mart finally recognizes that. Looks like T.J. Maxx and Marshalls are following suit. Props to them.
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    Re: Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    thank you for once again not making an argument just like every other person out there that screams living wage.

    please tell me how you pay a bag boy 20 bucks an hour? or even 15 an hour?
    what skill does he provide to earn that type of money?
    I didn't say pay them that. So straw man away. Why don't YOU tell the rest of what what skill qualifies someone to make $400,000,000 in a year. You seem to be confident in the current system and my question is actually happening while your scenario isn't. Explain away.
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    Re: Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    The idea is to fix minimum wage isn't it. Adults should not be making minimum wage. They should make a prevailing wage that allows them to support themselves. Minimum wage used to be a great start for kids getting into the work market. Companies, like mcdonalds and walmart however have taken advantage of minimum wage and now we see the results.
    what does age have to do with it?
    skills and market/business forces set wage levels, not age.

    prevailing wage?...for unskilled labor positions?... it's called "minimum wage".
    it's not "taking advantage" of minimum wage... it's applying the very principle of the minimum wage
    the wage floor is set to cover entry level unskilled positions.. always has been...always will be.

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    Re: Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    what does age have to do with it?
    skills and market/business forces set wage levels, not age.

    prevailing wage?...for unskilled labor positions?... it's called "minimum wage".
    it's not "taking advantage" of minimum wage... it's applying the very principle of the minimum wage
    the wage floor is set to cover entry level unskilled positions.. always has been...always will be.
    I made more than double the prevailing minimum wage as an unskilled worker back in '63, and the prevailing minimum wage at the time ($1.25) bought quite a lot more than the minimum wage does now.

    It used to be a lot easier to earn a living than it is now.
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    Re: Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    what does age have to do with it?
    skills and market/business forces set wage levels, not age.

    prevailing wage?...for unskilled labor positions?... it's called "minimum wage".
    it's not "taking advantage" of minimum wage... it's applying the very principle of the minimum wage
    the wage floor is set to cover entry level unskilled positions.. always has been...always will be.
    the presumption from your post is that those underskilled workers should never expect to realize a living wage
    then what do you propose to do to enable them to enjoy at least a minimum standard of living?
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    Re: Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I made more than double the prevailing minimum wage as an unskilled worker back in '63, and the prevailing minimum wage at the time ($1.25) bought quite a lot more than the minimum wage does now.

    It used to be a lot easier to earn a living than it is now.
    I think you and me both know this ins't the 60's anymore.
    the only time in the 60's i made above minimum wage is when I worked under the table...though i didn't have my first "real" job until '66

    it did buy more than it does today, sure thing....but wages are not the only factor there... cost of living levels went nuts since then.

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    Re: Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the presumption from your post is that those underskilled workers should never expect to realize a living wage
    then what do you propose to do to enable them to enjoy at least a minimum standard of living?
    I said unskilled, not underskilled... and i'm talking about minimum wage, not a living wage..furthermore, never is a very long time.. i don't expect anyone to remain static forever, at any level.

    define "minimum standard of living"?.. is that just the bare necessities of food and shelter?.... or is it more of an arbitrary thing like "a living wage"?

    the advise I tend to give folks is it to work hard,work smart, gain more skills,master the skills you have, and negotiate your wages aggressively...I also tend to advise people to stay out of the retail sector if at all possible.

    all of this is how we operate under our current system... if you want to talk in terms of changing our system, i advocate doing away with minimum wage altogether( as well as most, if not all of our social welfare programs) and going to a basic income guarantee for every adult citizen in the country.... but that's just a dream.. nobody is going to allow that.

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