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    Re: Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Both on line and through ABC news we learn that walmart has capitulated:


    Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise


    For some time in these discussions about walmart abuses and organizing drives I predicted that the pressure would defeat them. Within a year the starting wage at walmart will be $10 an hour. This will of course increase the strength of the organizing drive and have a good effect on the drives for Mcdonald's as well.

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    Re: Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Whose fault is that Chinaski? The Dollar Store? hardly.
    Why is it anyone's fault? I don't know Her or Her deal. I'm not judging, just pointing out the way it is.

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    Re: Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    I see the check out girl who works at the local dollar store using a SNAP card at the neighborhood grocery store. So that tells Me that her wage at Her dollar store job isn't enough to cover bare bones needs, so we're all picking up the rest of the tab. Pay her the minimum that is needed to survive here and then we don't have to pick up that tab.
    How do you nationalize "here"? What it takes to survive in your here is different than what it takes to survive in my here.

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    Re: Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    I suspect that has more to do with consumer demand for self-check out areas, or maybe just a way to start training customers to get used to self checkout.

    I really wouldn't think that Walmart would fire cashiers just for the purpose of voluntarily giving raises, that doesn't even make sense. Everything that Walmart does is about making larger profits, period.
    With a profit margin of under 4%, I would believe survival, not larger profits.

    To pay that new wage, how many items will have their prices raised? The new wage may actually help walmart make larger profits vs replacing cashiers, since it is very difficult to raise prices on items by .5 cents.
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    Re: Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Why is it anyone's fault? I don't know Her or Her deal. I'm not judging, just pointing out the way it is.
    Well the "way it is" is more than not due to consequences of poor choices. And as things are set up now, those who make the less are compensated through government subsidies to the point they often come out better than the couple who both work with a couple of kids not on any government subsidies.

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    Re: Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    How do you nationalize "here"? What it takes to survive in your here is different than what it takes to survive in my here.
    That's exactly what I've been saying! There need some sort of regulation of a standard that individuals make at least the bare minimum to get by for basic necessities where they live without having to rely on My money.

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    Re: Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Well the "way it is" is more than not due to consequences of poor choices. And as things are set up now, those who make the less are compensated through government subsidies to the point they often come out better than the couple who both work with a couple of kids not on any government subsidies.
    What makes you think that She made poor choices? We don't know anything about Het life situation or circumstances. At this moment in her life, Her circumstances and situation might dictate that she needs temporary assistance. If her employer was paying her enough to Cover the bare-bones minimum, then I wouldn't have to pick up the tab for the rest of the rent. She's working at the dollar store, why am I paying part of her rent?

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    Re: Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    It seems to me the biggest group of employees at Walmart are not looking for full time employment nor seeking a career. The majority of employees seem to be made up of students (high school and college), moms wanting part time employment, retired persons seeking a part time job to supplement their income. I believe they require at least a high school diploma or currently in school, drug testing and background check. There's a good number of people in our society that couldn't get a job at Walmart. Ten bucks an hour may not go very far in Portland, Chicago, or NY but it does in flyover country where moms take on part time jobs to supplement the family income with a part time job and still be home with the kids when needed. Or a retired person on a fixed income looking for extra to supplement his/her income. Same with the college student trying to earn tuition for next quarter. It isn't Walmart's responsibility to provide healthcare to its part time employees. As far as I know they do provide healthcare plans for their full time employees. At some point, personal responsibility for one's choices in life needs to be addressed.
    I don't disagree with that, except it's my observation that the Walmarts in my town don't look like they have very many students working for them, if any. We have six colleges, so I'm sure there are plenty of students looking for jobs, but for whatever reason, they ain't finding them out our Walmarts. This might just be a regional thing.
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    Re: Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    I see the check out girl who works at the local dollar store using a SNAP card at the neighborhood grocery store. So that tells Me that her wage at Her dollar store job isn't enough to cover bare bones needs, so we're all picking up the rest of the tab. Pay her the minimum that is needed to survive here and then we don't have to pick up that tab.
    That's what frustrates me the most about means tested welfare. And it seems like every time I bring this issue up, it's mostly conservatives who support this system.

    I really don't understand why anyone would prefer for the government to have to keep up low wage paying companies employees, rather than the employers to have to pay decent wages.
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    Re: Walmart Gives 500,000 Workers A Raise

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Whose fault is that Chinaski? The Dollar Store? hardly.
    No, it's certainly not the fault of the low wage paying employer, but they take advantage of the situation.

    I'd much prefer to totally eliminate means tested welfare, cut taxes, and just expect our employers to pay a decent wage. And if I had to pay a couple of percent more at Walmart and McDonalds, then so be it, it's still cheaper than paying for welfare.
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