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Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientation

Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

Because he probably , like most people, think a baby should be raised by a man and a woman.

I don't think that. But I also don't think people should be forced into not thinking that.

The baby was seen by another doctor in the practice. Nobody was harmed in this story. I don't know why anyone is acting like this was some sort of tragedy or the baby was dying and the only doctor in town refused to see the baby.
 
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just out of curiosity though what I want to know is, how is giving healthcare to the baby "wrong" in the eyes of her religion? what possible religion could she be?
It is the church of the sacred heart of the bigot and ignorant.
The chorus is made up by the apologists for such vile beings.
 
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I don't think that. But I also don't think people should be forced into not thinking that.

The baby was seen by another doctor in the practice. Nobody was harmed in this story. I don't know why anyone is acting like this was some sort of tragedy or the baby was dying and the only doctor in town refused to see the baby.

And black people weren't harmed by having to ride in the back of the bus, or drink from separate water fountains.

Some people are fine with "separate, but equal"
 
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"a freaking baby is being denied medical care"

The baby wasn't denied medical care. Another doctor in the practice provided the baby with medical care.
So you are OK with this?
How about in an emergency? How about if it happened to you in an emergency?
 
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Read the post I was quoting, before quoting me.

I did already and it doesnt change the fact you just made up a failed strawman and lie that nobody said LOL
 
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Obviously it is but take it up with the AMA and the state of michigan (one of the worst to be lgbt). It's absolutely insane that a profession dedicated to science and healing and a government under oath to protect its citizens and uphold the constitution would instead defer to lunatic religious dogma.

This "doctor" should lose a lot more than the license

You arent any better demonizing the doctor. You are doing to him what he did to them. how are you any different?
 
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You don't want to treat certain people in a non emergency setting, you should have that option as a human.
Ah, so those who treat emergency patients do not have religious rights or consciences? This must be a new flavor of hypocrisy, selective as it suits you.

But, I forgot. We are the United States of the Offended and must go on a crusade to crush all people with a different world view.
Nothing of the sort, we just do not have to tolerate bigots in public service where they can harm others.
 
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Yes, lets ban everything and every way of thinking that doesn't line up with the oh so tolerant liberals.
No, nothing of the sort. Just laws that eliminate ignorant bigotry, something you seem to defend.
 
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No, nothing of the sort. Just laws that eliminate ignorant bigotry, something you seem to defend.

I defend a persons right to feel, think and believe what they wish to. Not be forced to.
 
Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

Ah, so those who treat emergency patients do not have religious rights or consciences? This must be a new flavor of hypocrisy, selective as it suits you.

Nothing of the sort, we just do not have to tolerate bigots in public service where they can harm others.
They make that call when they go into emergency medicine.
 
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I defend a persons right to feel, think and believe what they wish to. Not be forced to.
No you defend bigotry plain and simple. No one asked that the doctor change her view, faith or anything.
 
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I did not say it was, I asked "How about in an emergency?"

It wasn't an emergency. If It was, this would have been a story and that doctor would have been wrong.

This isn't a big story.
 
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It wasn't an emergency. If It was, this would have been a story and that doctor would have been wrong.

This isn't a big story.
SO you draw the line at emergency situations? Why?
 
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Because he probably , like most people, think a baby should be raised by a man and a woman.

She should worry more about the actual health of the baby, rather than passing judgement on who is raising the baby. Her concern should be the baby's health, not the parents' relationship, unless that relationship can actually be shown to be harmful to the child.
 
Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

It wasn't an emergency. If It was, this would have been a story and that doctor would have been wrong.

This isn't a big story.

What if the other doctor wouldn't have seen the baby, and the baby wouldn't have been able to be seen that week? Do you think they should have legal recourse if something would have happened to the child because of missing a well baby appointment? It was possible, especially if they lived in a smaller town, with fewer doctors.

Or if their insurance had only allowed for them to see one doctor within their area, and that doctor refused to see them? Should they have to then pay more because that doctor is discriminating against their child because of the doctor's religious objection to the relationship of the parents?
 
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Catholic run hospitals should make people recite the Nicene Creed prior to entering. If they can't, no service. That would be ok...right?
 
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SO you draw the line at emergency situations? Why?

I didn't know there were lines being drawn?

This wasn't an emergency. It wasn't a hospital. It was a group practice and someone else saw the baby.
 
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What if the other doctor wouldn't have seen the baby, and the baby wouldn't have been able to be seen that week? Do you think they should have legal recourse if something would have happened to the child because of missing a well baby appointment? It was possible, especially if they lived in a smaller town, with fewer doctors.

Or if their insurance had only allowed for them to see one doctor within their area, and that doctor refused to see them? Should they have to then pay more because that doctor is discriminating against their child because of the doctor's religious objection to the relationship of the parents?

What if my parents hadn't had sex that night? I wouldn't have been born.

"What if" is a hypothetical. There is a real story here, and not a hypothetical. This was a group practice, and another doctor saw the baby.
 
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You arent any better demonizing the doctor. You are doing to him what he did to them. how are you any different?

No, this isn't true. The difference is in the reasons for the actions taken. The doctor used her beliefs to justify not doing a well baby checkup for a child who has two mommies, while speaking out against such things is speaking out against the actions of the person.

The doctor believes that two women should not raise a baby together (for whatever reason, the fact that she claims a religious basis really isn't important). Does she also think single parents shouldn't raise children, and deny their children well baby checkups as well? I would be interested to know what other kinds of parents she doesn't approve of or believe should raise children and whether she denies their children checkups with her as well. Does she only deal with those children who are of certain "types" of parents?

Would it be okay for a doctor to refuse to examine a mixed race child if he/she does not approve of interracial relationships and believes they are harmful to children?
 
Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

You arent any better demonizing the doctor. You are doing to him what he did to them. how are you any different?

Oh REALLY, i'm not denying medical care to him? Sure wish i had that power

Yeah let's weigh these two: criticizing a complete asshole on the internet vs denying medical treatment to a baby
 
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