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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    So you quoted me and can't tell me where the quote came from. That is bad form.
    WTF are you talking about? I quoted you more than once and every time the quote had a link to the post where you said it.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    WTF are you talking about? I quoted you more than once and every time the quote had a link to the post where you said it.
    In post #515, you wrote this and I quote:

    "but not merely because "that's what people want them to do" as you claimed originally."

    I could not find where I said those words you quoted. If you can, please point it out, otherwise, don't attribute words in a quote that I didn't say. Again, that would be bad form.

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    In post #515, you wrote this and I quote:

    "but not merely because "that's what people want them to do" as you claimed originally."

    I could not find where I said those words you quoted. If you can, please point it out, otherwise, don't attribute words in a quote that I didn't say. Again, that would be bad form.
    So you would deny your own words? Your position must be incredibly weak if even you won't stick to it

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    Isn't that what government is about, forcing people to do stuff they don't want to do because someone else thinks they should?
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So you would deny your own words? Your position must be incredibly weak if even you won't stick to it
    I stand by my words, I deny that you quoted what I wrote. Misquoting people is beneath you and a low tactic.

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I stand by my words,
    Since you denied saying them in your previous post, I'd say you have an odd way of standing by your words
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    Re: Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientat

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Homosexuality is not the same as someone race or gender, I wish people would stop with that notion.
    First of all, what are the key differences? Second, OK, so it's more like religion. How does that affect the analysis?

    And, how can someone tell someone's sexual orientation unless they're flaunting it?
    Seriously? I'd love to know what you think qualifies as flaunting. Whatever it is, I'm positive that it doesn't also apply to heterosexual couples - e.g. holding hands, picture of our spouse at work, maybe a picture of both of us at work, kiss hello or goodbye, essentially any show of affection outside a bedroom...

    If a restaurant or any public meeting place wishes to exclude certain characters, yes, indeed they should be allowed to. The market will sort itself out, especially since most homophiles keep telling us that the majority of American's actively support gay rights.
    I don't agree, and thankfully the law agrees with me with regard to race, color, religion, sex or national origin. I think that should include sexual orientation.

    So, JasperL, in your opinion there is no compromise? Is it also safe to say that you could not envision a situation where someone who opposes homosexuality would NOT be a bigot?
    If by "compromise" you mean allow businesses open to the "public" to arbitrarily deny service to individuals based on characteristics such as race, religion or sexual orientation, I guess not.

    To your bigot question - I guess I really don't care what people think about homosexuality of homosexuals. Some people are opposed to drinking, others drink. We're all different. What I think is a reasonable expectation is we treat each other with common courtesy and respect despite our differences. It's not a particularly heavy lift - public businesses serve the public, black, white, Jews, Muslims, Christian, atheists, gay, straight, Hispanics, etc.

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    Re: Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientat

    Yes, they do. And what may have been lost in all these many pages is the fact that every day pediatricians do treat the children of gay couples and that this is a commonplace. Perhaps this story is news because what happened is extraordinary rather than ordinary.

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    It's no different in any meaningful way than a restaurant having a black section near the kitchen, or black bathrooms and white ones, or black water fountains and white fountains. Or a bus having seats reserved for blacks, and others for whites. In all those cases blacks got services - a meal or water or a bathroom or a bus ride WERE provided. So what's the harm? No harm in your view. I don't agree.
    Wow, seriously? You see no "meaningful" difference between a single doctor asking a colleague to provide services for a couple versus the segregation of an entire race of people mandated under state laws?

    Unbelievable.

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    Re: Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientat

    Quote Originally Posted by Chainsaw View Post
    BS, more than likely, the pediatrician did not accept their ObamaCare. BUT it JUST had to be something to do with their sexual orientation, because that is the buzz issue right now.
    That you prefer ignorance is entirely your affair, but the reason for such a moronic post is, I must say, puzzling.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Since you denied saying them in your previous post, I'd say you have an odd way of standing by your words
    I will not be falsely quoted. Now you are using snips of what I wrote but at least this time I wrote it.

    Using quotes around something I didn't write is dishonest. If you want to paraphrase what I wrote then don't use quotes.
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