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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Seriously? Knowing that a doctor doesn't want lesbian/gay patients is pretty important. It's exactly the kind of thing that should go on doctor rating sites. Because the last thing you want is to pick a doctor who disapproves of you and won't show up for your appointment.

    She can have her views. But she can't stop people from pointing out that they disagree with her religious views.
    Why is it important to know what your doctor's view on your choice of a marriage partner is again? I always thought people chose their doctors based on the quality of medical care they received.

    The last thing you want to do is pick a doctor who disapproves of your spouse? That isn't the last thing I want to do.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You are trying to twist what I said. Religion is protected from discrimination. Religious views that are used in an attempt to discriminate are not protected as more important than other views that are used to attempt to discriminate under federal law. For example, a Jewish doctor cannot claim that their religious views do not permit them to have a Muslim for a patient. A male Muslim teacher cannot refuse to teach girls due to his religious beliefs.
    What federal law is this?

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    She decided to "broadcast" it? It was the couple who went to social media. The pediatrician told only her partner and didn't broadcast anything. It's amazing to read all the twisting that goes on here.
    She shared the reasoning with the other doctor, who shared it with the couple. She put her beliefs out, opening up her reasoning to public scrutiny. She didn't have to give any reasoning, even to her fellow doctor as to why she was refusing to see the baby. Telling the truth was almost certainly the best route to go for her conscious (and I'm not saying anything against that), but that doesn't mean that it was "right" for the situation. It is possible that she believed that her fellow doctor would have lied for her because many people will do this to try to spare the feelings of other people when someone they know and like does something like this.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Why is it important to know what your doctor's view on your choice of a marriage partner is again? I always thought people chose their doctors based on the quality of medical care they received.

    The last thing you want to do is pick a doctor who disapproves of your spouse? That isn't the last thing I want to do.
    Please. Re-read what I said. I'll try it again since you apparently didn't get what I was saying.

    You don't want to pick a doctor who will decide not to show up for an appt because your partner is the same gender.

    If the doctor is willing to treat you- or your child -regardless of your partner's gender, that's fine. But if they won't - you don't want to waste the time calling to make the appt.

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Why is it important to know what your doctor's view on your choice of a marriage partner is again? I always thought people chose their doctors based on the quality of medical care they received.

    The last thing you want to do is pick a doctor who disapproves of your spouse? That isn't the last thing I want to do.
    And if a doctor is going to drop you due to their religious views of your situation, then that would tell people that you are not going to get the best quality of care from this doctor, and might even end up with a canceled appointment if they refuse to see you and another doctor in their group can't or won't see you the day of your appointment. This is not the best quality of care, and has a potential to happen just due to the person's religious views. It would be just as important to know if your doctor didn't approve of interracial relationships or certain religions or their religious views were that women should be treated differently somehow than men, girls treated differently than boys. These do affect the level of care/service that you would receive from the doctor.

    The thing this doctor should have done was to have told them about her issue with their relationship when they first came to her, not waiting til after they had an appointment with her to then refuse to see their child. She might have faced the same outing of her views, but it would have shown that she at least would tell you if she was going to refuse to serve you before you made plans with her.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Please. Re-read what I said. I'll try it again since you apparently didn't get what I was saying.

    You don't want to pick a doctor who will decide not to show up for an appt because your partner is the same gender.

    If the doctor is willing to treat you- or your child -regardless of your partner's gender, that's fine. But if they won't - you don't want to waste the time calling to make the appt.
    No....you wouldn't want a doctor who doesn't like your choice of marriage partner. And that's perfectly fine that you feel that way, but it isn't a reason most people select a pediatrician.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    What federal law is this?
    Civil Rights Act of 1964.

    Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And if a doctor is going to drop you due to their religious views of your situation, then that would tell people that you are not going to get the best quality of care from this doctor, and might even end up with a canceled appointment if they refuse to see you and another doctor in their group can't or won't see you the day of your appointment. This is not the best quality of care, and has a potential to happen just due to the person's religious views. It would be just as important to know if your doctor didn't approve of interracial relationships or certain religions or their religious views were that women should be treated differently somehow than men, girls treated differently than boys. These do affect the level of care/service that you would receive from the doctor.

    The thing this doctor should have done was to have told them about her issue with their relationship when they first came to her, not waiting til after they had an appointment with her to then refuse to see their child. She might have faced the same outing of her views, but it would have shown that she at least would tell you if she was going to refuse to serve you before you made plans with her.
    Fascinating. Then you better make sure you know all about your kids' pediatrician's religious views so this tragedy doesn't happen to you either.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Doesn't apply. But I'm guessing you already knew that?

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No....you wouldn't want a doctor who doesn't like your choice of marriage partner. And that's perfectly fine that you feel that way, but it isn't a reason most people select a pediatrician.

    If you are going to continue to mis-read what I type, there is no use in continuing to discuss things with you.

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