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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Of course I will, i enjoy pointing you your dodges and further exposing your posts.
    Now we are still waiting, can you present any facts to back up the claims you made and multiple posters proved wrong? Please do so in you next post. Thanks!
    Didn't dodge anything. That's just your way of saying that you have nothing of substance to say.

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    Re: Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientat

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    IOW, it is discrimination.
    Right, it's just ok discrimination.

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    Re: Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientat

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    Then I recommend you stop reading this thread.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    We already talked about doctors not being able to refuse to see patients in an emergency.
    Didn't mention an emergency. Talking about a doctor in the exact same situation, doing the exact same thing, only the parents are atheists, or interracial, or Jewish, or interfaith. Do you or do you not believe that the doctor should face punishment or possible lawsuit under public accommodation laws for her actions, only with the people she refused to see their baby changed?
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    That was their choice to leave the group. What does that have to do with what Jerry posted?
    I was correcting him. He said they did not go to another doctor, find another doctor. They did.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Who is whining. Just pointing out the bigotry and your inability to grasp certain things.

    No, that is an established fact. You think that she is not and of course you are mistaken.

    No, I had no interaction with her.

    I do not give a crap if you do or do not.

    To an apologist and denier probably not, but the again you do not determine such things.

    Nobody said that the infant did not get the care. Stop beating the dead horse, it can not feel it.

    along with the discrimination. They did not want that. Nobody wants bigotry, that is no decent civilized people want bigotry. You seem to like it.

    Intelligent and sensible people already do, you do not count so much for me.
    Awesome post. Started with outrage and reached a crescendo of outrage by the end.

    Bigotry? Here's the definition of bigot:

    a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

    I see it every day on here and in real life. I see it right here in this thread, in fact. I see people attacking gay people, religious people, women, men, vegetarians, pro-choicers, right wingers, left wingers, etc. etc. Intolerance is everywhere. And you're as intolerant of her religious beliefs, whatever they are exactly, as she is of the couple's gay marriage.

    This isn't the Special Olympics. Not everyone gets a ribbon. Not everyone is going to like everyone else, and not everyone is going to want to associate with everyone else. This doctor got her partner to cover an appointment for her. The baby got the care the parents wanted. You find it a massive big deal because the doctor seems to have some sort of religious issue with gay people. So again, I don't share your outrage. If that makes me uncivilized or unintelligent to you, that's fine with me. I don't even know you.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I was correcting him. He said they did not go to another doctor, find another doctor. They did.
    He was talking about at that initial visit, and he was correct. They didn't have to go find another doctor. The original doctor found one for them, right in the same building.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I don't know why any adult gives a crap about what another adult thinks of his/her bedroom preferences. The couple at the center of this story are apparently very hurt because this doctor doesn't agree with their preferences. I don't care who dislikes my blonde hair, my blue eyes, my choice of husband, my kids' clothes, what kind of car I drive, what kind of music I like, or what color my house is. Just as long as nobody doesn't provide me with what I pay for that everyone else gets for the same price that I pay.

    The baby got medical care that day. This couple is pissed because the doctor doesn't like them. BFD.
    They are informing other parents and patients of this doctor's bigotry so they don't have to go through the same thing they do. They have every right to be mad at someone who agreed to be their doctor (the medical group as a whole did not take them on generally, then assign them this doctor, they talked to her prenatal about being their doctor, and she agreed), but then decided to drop them because they are two women rather than a man and a woman, which she claims violates her religious beliefs to check their baby. There is no guarantee that in the future a different doctor would be available in a similar situation involving this doctor. What if she later decides she also can't see babies who only have a single mother or whose parents are divorced because of her religious beliefs?
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Didn't mention an emergency. Talking about a doctor in the exact same situation, doing the exact same thing, only the parents are atheists, or interracial, or Jewish, or interfaith. Do you or do you not believe that the doctor should face punishment or possible lawsuit under public accommodation laws for her actions, only with the people she refused to see their baby changed?
    Punishment? Sure. Go ahead and punish her for that. Nothing like a lawsuit where the damages are hurt feelings. We don't have enough of them.

    The maybe she can fie suit against all of the people who are so intolerant of her religious views that they've gone on doctor rating sites - meant to help real people select a doctor who provides good medical care and not provide personal approval of their marriage - and posted malicious things about the doctor. She's exercising her religious views, and last I checked, they're also protected. Hurt feelings and all.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    They are informing other parents and patients of this doctor's bigotry so they don't have to go through the same thing they do. They have every right to be mad at someone who agreed to be their doctor (the medical group as a whole did not take them on generally, then assign them this doctor, they talked to her prenatal about being their doctor, and she agreed), but then decided to drop them because they are two women rather than a man and a woman, which she claims violates her religious beliefs to check their baby. There is no guarantee that in the future a different doctor would be available in a similar situation involving this doctor. What if she later decides she also can't see babies who only have a single mother or whose parents are divorced because of her religious beliefs?
    The patient has just as much right to refuse a doctor based on ideology. Fair use is fair.

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