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    Re: Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientat

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Seems like a daily race to the media with somebody somewhere trying to spin something into racism / discrimination.

    It is becoming tiresome.
    Could be but no spinning required in this case. It wasn't racism, but bigotry, and I'm not sure what discrimination against gays would look like except, "I will refuse to provide service to you because you are gay." Seems to meet the dictionary definition pretty well to me!

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    Re: Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientat

    If you don't like the way this service provider runs their business, then find another one.

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You don't know much about group practices, I see. You don't always get the doctor you want. Sometimes you see a different one. It isn't a national tragedy when you can't see the one. It happens all the time.

    It isn't irrelevant that she works for a group practice. Again, you don't know what a group practice is.

    Not irrelevant stupid drivel. It's a fact. They have no right to demand a specific pediatrician.

    We've all been discriminated against. Not everyone likes everyone else. Most adults don't whine about it. Thank goodness.
    Actually, no. When I go to a group practice - I'm going to see a specific doctor. I don't get shunted off to a different one.

    And they had met with THIS DOCTOR while they were still pregnant. They made a "well baby" appt with THIS DOCTOR.

    Jeez. You really are reaching hard here, aren't you? Well, dear, just give it up and toddle off to bed, ok? You are rewriting the facts to fit your narrative, and it must be hurting your head.

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Are you being obtuse or you are really not capable to grasp the issue? It is not about group practice or who saw the infant but strictly about the action of one single doctor. She agreed to be the pediatrician of the infant in a prenatal visit. She set up the appointment and the declined to see the infant. She was not hit by a bus, was not on the moon or on vacation, she did not want to see the infant, because she is a bigot. Which part of any of this do you have so much difficulty getting?
    oh m you said this so much better than I did!

    Is Tres Borrachos always this hard-headed?

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    Re: Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientat

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Seems like a daily race to the media with somebody somewhere trying to spin something into racism / discrimination.

    It is becoming tiresome.
    Then I recommend you stop reading this thread.

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    Re: Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientat

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    To be quite honest this did surprise me. For some reason I thought that educated people can and would rise above such blatant bigotry, but I guess that low life imbeciles exist in every walk of life.
    This doctor refused to treat an infant because the parents are gay.
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    Re: Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientat

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post

    If you do not discriminate you are not a bigot. It is action that makes on, in my view at least. We all like and dislike any number of things, but it is our actions vis-a-vis people that can turn us into bigots.
    See, this is why I asked this question of you, and specifically to those that throw that word around hap-hazard. We do discriminate, ALL OF US, and our discrimination is generally brought about by our understanding brought about by experience of the world around us. I'm not a religious person, nor would I discriminate if I owned a business, mainly because I love money more than I hate anything in particular. But that being stated does not negate the fact that some people choose to discriminate based on any number of variables, and of which sexual proclivity being one of them, whether for religious or personal reasons, we have a right here in America to do exactly that. Some can debate whether a business or a service is directly reflective of the individual, and the SCOTUS has somewhat hinted at that being the case with recent campaign finance legislation, but I would welcome that debate, as I'm sure people on both sides have valid arguments for and against. In a weird sort of way, this is what I was getting at all along; in that, people are so afraid these days to even begin the debate, to have the talk about politically charged topics because of the terms and rhetoric thrown about by either side. That isn't America, our congress doesn't avoid topics that are hard, our Executive doesn't, nor does our Judicial. In fact, our whole existence was to promote exactly this kind of debate, and to form a consensus or compromise with the knowledge that sometimes we'll get it wrong, but eventually it'll correct itself.

    You can't correct something if no one is willing to voice any concerns, conversely, you can't get something done if no one is willing to come forward and present compelling arguments for why a change needs to be made. I find it somewhat ironic that on a message board specifically designed with that concept in mind, we often devolve into rhetorical, illogical attacks on the others ideas. I think if someone has a silly argument, or inarticulate, or illogical, it is the responsibility of the members here to present a more compelling rebuttal, but do it a respectful manner without impugning or otherwise inferring motives.

    There are many legitimate reasons for someone to be put off by homosexual lifestyles, religious expression being but one of them, but like any other character trait, we should be able to choose with whom we associate, and I think that ultimately that was the intent of the founding Fathers.


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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Perhaps the pediatrician was terrorized by the thought that the lesbian couple would ask for decorated cake.

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Keep talking.
    Of course I will, i enjoy pointing you your dodges and further exposing your posts.
    Now we are still waiting, can you present any facts to back up the claims you made and multiple posters proved wrong? Please do so in you next post. Thanks!
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    Re: Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientat

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Her religion is what's irrelevant. I wasn't curious about her religion.
    still weird you were curious about something that is irrelevant
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