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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

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    Are you being obtuse or you are really not capable to grasp the issue?

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    I'm not having trouble "getting" what your incessant whining posts are about. You think the doctor is a bigot.
    prometeus, ask her how not seeing a baby because the parents are gay is not bigotry and watch her dance

    She'll blather something about it being based on religious principle (without being able to identify the religious principle of not treating a baby whose parents are gay) as if being religious and being bigoted were mutually exclusive
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientat

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Seems like a daily race to the media with somebody somewhere trying to spin something into racism / discrimination.
    Then thee are days when bigots offer it without any reservations and people like you try to spin it into something benign.

    It is becoming tiresome.
    Your spin, yes, so save your energy and stop the spin.

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    Re: Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientat

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Seems like a daily race to the media with somebody somewhere trying to spin something into racism / discrimination.
    The doctor refused to see a baby because its' parents are gay. How is that *not* discrimination?
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

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    Your strawman looks great. Where would you draw the line. Life lost? Multiple lives lost? How many?
    Lost lives? Are you sure you're in the right thread?

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm not having trouble "getting" what your incessant whining posts are about.
    Who is whining. Just pointing out the bigotry and your inability to grasp certain things.

    You think the doctor is a bigot.
    No, that is an established fact. You think that she is not and of course you are mistaken.

    She's hurt your feelings, too.
    No, I had no interaction with her.

    I don't really care.
    I do not give a crap if you do or do not.

    This is a non-story.
    To an apologist and denier probably not, but the again you do not determine such things.

    The baby is fine. The baby got her wellness check.
    Nobody said that the infant did not get the care. Stop beating the dead horse, it can not feel it.

    That's what they wanted, and that's what they got.
    along with the discrimination. They did not want that. Nobody wants bigotry, that is no decent civilized people want bigotry. You seem to like it.

    Don't expect everyone to share your outrage.
    Intelligent and sensible people already do, you do not count so much for me.

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

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    Lost lives? Are you sure you're in the right thread?
    Yes, I asked a simple question, which part did you find difficult to grasp?

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Yes, I asked a simple question, which part did you find difficult to grasp?
    The relevance. Hence asking if you were in the right thread. All caught up, now? Or do you need me to repeat it a third time...

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

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    The relevance. Hence asking if you were in the right thread. All caught up, now? Or do you need me to repeat it a third time...
    Yes I asked a simple question and you still are not capable of grasping it.
    Let me break it down to simple sentences and ask someone with reading comprehension ability to translate it for you.
    You asserted that there is no danger from Christian zealots taking over government. The counter assertion was that zealots do exist and they do pose a danger. Along that line I asked where would you draw a line, at life or multiple lives lost to the effect of religious zealots.
    Hope that helps.

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Yes I asked a simple question and you still are not capable of grasping it.
    Let me break it down to simple sentences and ask someone with reading comprehension ability to translate it for you.
    You asserted that there is no danger from Christian zealots taking over government. The counter assertion was that zealots do exist and they do pose a danger. Along that line I asked where would you draw a line, at life or multiple lives lost to the effect of religious zealots.
    Hope that helps.
    Yeah, not really. Usually there some sort of logic used in tying statements together to form what is called a rational argument.

    Sorry.

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Are you being obtuse or you are really not capable to grasp the issue? It is not about group practice or who saw the infant but strictly about the action of one single doctor. She agreed to be the pediatrician of the infant in a prenatal visit. She set up the appointment and the declined to see the infant. She was not hit by a bus, was not on the moon or on vacation, she did not want to see the infant, because she is a bigot. Which part of any of this do you have so much difficulty getting?
    Don't forget, she skipped work to avoid telling them to their face she's a bigot!!

    But it's OK. Same way it'd be OK if a black family sat down for dinner and the manager said, "so sorry, but you'll have to change tables - this waiter prayed on it and doesn't feel he can give you good service cause he's a racist, but we have other waiters who will serve blacks, so no harm done!"

    I'm surprised you can't see this - clear as day to me.....

    /sarcasm.

    More seriously, that she couldn't tell them to their face is what's sad to me. It's almost as if her (perhaps decent) conscience was trying to tell her something, and her religion wouldn't let it. Whatever was going on, she knew it was wrong enough to avoid facing her decision.
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