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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

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    You're determined to miss the point, so I'll quit trying. I should have known better. My mistake.
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    Rosa Parks broke a law. Was she a "perpetrator of injustice" too?
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    She didn't. Did you listen to the clip? She never said "all", never said "freeloaders" and never even implied it. The OP was wrong and misleading, just as Beau said.
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    And it's happened before that a man kills his wife. So does that mean we women should all be afraid to get married in the event our husbands decide to kill us?
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    I'm a woman. And a fiscal conservative. No conservatives have declared war on me. And I've done just fine in my life.
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    Who's Bart?
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    Ah, I get it now. I'm a bad person for calling her a young woman. Neat! What would have been a more appropriate name for her then?
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    Can you educate me on what specific ways the Republicans are "actively courting the southern white bigot vote"? I live in NH so I'm not in the south nor am I a bigot, so I wouldn't know how they are doing that.

    What are the black and Hispanic voters looking for that the Democrats are delivering to them, by the way? I'm also curious about what is in their platform that is specifically beneficial to either or both of those groups, and are targeted to them and not the southern white bigots?

    And is Mia Love stupid for picking the Republican side to run on? From the sound of your post it would appear that the Republicans made a big mistake helping to elect a black woman if their target demographic is southern white bigots? And how do they explain their support of Tim Scott to all the white bigots in South Carolina? He seems an odd choice in the middle of the area they supposedly are trying to demonstrate an aversion for minorities in order to impress the white bigots.
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    And they corrected it. So they made a mistake that they shouldn't have made. What is the big deal, and what are you looking to happen now?
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    Wait - wut? Left wingers don't care about child safety?
    Interestingly, it often happens with examples of the right being bigots. The one's who claim to not be bigots have to pretend they don't see the bigotry
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

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    She didn't agree to provide medical care to the baby.
    Of course she did that is why she did set up the appointment based on a prenatal visit, only to deny it later.

    She works for a group practice.
    Irrelevant. This entire thread is about the actions of that doctor.

    We don't have a constitutional right to see the doctor of our choice in a group practice.
    Irrelevant stupid drivel.

    Their feelings were hurt
    As a result of discrimination. Have you ever been discriminated against? If so you were or are OK with it?

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    Re: Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientat

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    It is astounding the level of denials and inability to see what this kind of discrimination can lead to.
    Not astounding at all. It is another example of "Hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue"

    In a time when bigotry is socially disapproved of, how else can a right winger who wants social approval support other right wingers without pretending to be blind to the bigotry of their colleagues?

    That's why when a right winger says or does something that is obviously bigoted, they must pretend that it really means something else. In this case, it's not about a policy of segregation - it's about the parents hurt feelings

    Because the water black people got from the black people's water fountains was the same water white people got from the white's only water fountain.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

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    If a radical Christian takeover of the entire medical field is something you feel you need to worry about, knock yourself out.
    Your strawman looks great. Where would you draw the line. Life lost? Multiple lives lost? How many?

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Yes, that's certainly not a good position to be in, but at the same time, not the fault of the doctor.
    Of course not, the doctor did not choose to be a bigot for no reason.

    I'm guessing that if this doctor were the only one available for miles around, she might have made a different choice than she did.
    Good guess, good guess. Baseless as it is, but a good one.

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Of course she did that is why she did set up the appointment based on a prenatal visit, only to deny it later.

    Irrelevant. This entire thread is about the actions of that doctor.

    Irrelevant stupid drivel.

    As a result of discrimination. Have you ever been discriminated against? If so you were or are OK with it?
    You don't know much about group practices, I see. You don't always get the doctor you want. Sometimes you see a different one. It isn't a national tragedy when you can't see the one. It happens all the time.

    It isn't irrelevant that she works for a group practice. Again, you don't know what a group practice is.

    Not irrelevant stupid drivel. It's a fact. They have no right to demand a specific pediatrician.

    We've all been discriminated against. Not everyone likes everyone else. Most adults don't whine about it. Thank goodness.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You don't know much about group practices, I see. You don't always get the doctor you want. Sometimes you see a different one. It isn't a national tragedy when you can't see the one. It happens all the time.

    It isn't irrelevant that she works for a group practice. Again, you don't know what a group practice is.

    Not irrelevant stupid drivel. It's a fact. They have no right to demand a specific pediatrician.

    We've all been discriminated against. Not everyone likes everyone else. Most adults don't whine about it. Thank goodness.
    And so we haave to pretend the issue is that they couldn't get a specific doctor in a group practice

    No matter what, tb will never acknowledge the issue - they couldn't get a specific doctor in a group practice because they're lesbians
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You don't know much about group practices, I see. You don't always get the doctor you want. Sometimes you see a different one.
    Are you being obtuse or you are really not capable to grasp the issue? It is not about group practice or who saw the infant but strictly about the action of one single doctor. She agreed to be the pediatrician of the infant in a prenatal visit. She set up the appointment and the declined to see the infant. She was not hit by a bus, was not on the moon or on vacation, she did not want to see the infant, because she is a bigot. Which part of any of this do you have so much difficulty getting?

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    Re: Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientat

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    To be quite honest this did surprise me. For some reason I thought that educated people can and would rise above such blatant bigotry, but I guess that low life imbeciles exist in every walk of life.
    This doctor refused to treat an infant because the parents are gay.
    Lesbian couple says Michigan pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientation | 7online.com
    Seems like a daily race to the media with somebody somewhere trying to spin something into racism / discrimination.

    It is becoming tiresome.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Are you being obtuse or you are really not capable to grasp the issue? It is not about group practice or who saw the infant but strictly about the action of one single doctor. She agreed to be the pediatrician of the infant in a prenatal visit. She set up the appointment and the declined to see the infant. She was not hit by a bus, was not on the moon or on vacation, she did not want to see the infant, because she is a bigot. Which part of any of this do you have so much difficulty getting?
    I'm not having trouble "getting" what your incessant whining posts are about. You think the doctor is a bigot. She's hurt your feelings, too. I don't really care. This is a non-story. Yes, the doctor didn't want to see the baby and had her partner see the baby. Wow. Big terrible tragedy. The baby is fine. The baby got her wellness check. That's what they wanted, and that's what they got. That's why you take your baby in for these checks.

    Don't expect everyone to share your outrage.
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