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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

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    It worked for Rosa Parks.
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    Okay, let's play the hypothetical game. I want to discuss this slippery slope. Barack Obama has forced me to buy health insurance or else I have to pay a penalty. Before he leaves office, he's going to force me to buy a hybrid car or pay a penalty, because he can. A mentally compromised kid whose mother had guns went to a school and shot some innocent children with her guns, so we should take guns away from everyone with kids because this could now become a weekly occurrence.

    That was fun.

    So is this thread about hypotheticals and what may happen? Then you're right, I'm in the wrong thread. I'm posting about the very minor incident here that has people all jacked up.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    It makes sense. The physician said she likely couldn't develop a proper patient physician relationship due to the parents living in sin. If it was me I would have still treated the child, but if there are other options and the physician felt they couldn't provide the best care because their lifestyle was a barrier in developing a proper patient/physician relationship then that should be respected. It's not as if she didn't arrange for other care.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The possibility of harm was still present and didn't occur only because of other circumstances. No harm is truly being caused to patrons of a restaurant for being refused service because they are a mixed race couple. No physical harm is actually caused from a teacher insisting she not have to teach black students or boys or Christians right?
    What possibility of harm was present in this situation?
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The limb is creaking, time to stop climbing further down that branch.

    No, there was no possibility for harm here. And just stop the silly conflation of race and religion with sexual orientation. Apples and gay oranges.
    The same situation exists here for potential for harm that would exist if the refusal was due to the relative religions of the parents or the actual religions of the parents or even races of the parents. So where exactly is the difference? It is just as much a choice when it comes to choosing to be with someone of a different religion or race as it is choosing to be with someone of a certain sex/gender.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It makes sense. The physician said she likely couldn't develop a proper patient physician relationship due to the parents living in sin. If it was me I would have still treated the child, but if there are other options and the physician felt they couldn't provide the best care because their lifestyle was a barrier in developing a proper patient/physician relationship then that should be respected. It's not as if she didn't arrange for other care.
    Too much common sense and doesn't allow for the drama and outrage set to have their screaming time.

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    What possibility of harm was present in this situation?
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    What possibility of harm was present in this situation?
    Financial hardships of having to look for a doctor further away. The possibility of not finding a doctor who would or could take them as a patient, leading to something not being diagnosed that could have been or missing necessary vaccinations.

    At the very least, the same possibility of harm to someone that exist when the refusal is based on race or religion, things that are protected against by federal laws and even state laws.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It makes sense. The physician said she likely couldn't develop a proper patient physician relationship due to the parents living in sin. If it was me I would have still treated the child, but if there are other options and the physician felt they couldn't provide the best care because their lifestyle was a barrier in developing a proper patient/physician relationship then that should be respected. It's not as if she didn't arrange for other care.
    Of course. That's the obvious here. But that apparently isn't good enough. There seems to be some need to punish the doctor.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Financial hardships of having to look for a doctor further away. The possibility of not finding a doctor who would or could take them as a patient, leading to something not being diagnosed that could have been or missing necessary vaccinations.

    At the very least, the same possibility of harm to someone that exist when the refusal is based on race or religion, things that are protected against by federal laws and even state laws.
    No, none of those things were a possibility in this situation. She had her partner see the child, on the same day she was supposed to see the child. You are making up possibilities out of thin air. That's disingenuous.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The same situation exists here for potential for harm that would exist if the refusal was due to the relative religions of the parents or the actual religions of the parents or even races of the parents. So where exactly is the difference? It is just as much a choice when it comes to choosing to be with someone of a different religion or race as it is choosing to be with someone of a certain sex/gender.
    Wow, you're really not reading today. The difference is one is protected by constitution and law and the other isn't.

    And let's be clear, there was no refusal of service in any event. The GROUP provides the service, it's one of the wonderful things about setting up a medical group. If you're sick that day, or otherwise occupied, another physician from the group sees your patients.

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