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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

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    Should cops be allowed to respond to a domestic abuse case and choose not to assist for any reason? And if so, what are those reasons?
    Did you not read the post???
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

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    My brain is hurting from the stupidity of your post. The foreskin has more than a dozen functions from pleasure, lubrication, all the way to keeping the area disease and infection free. Why do you think the body would have extra parts that do nothing? Please research the topic before talking about it. Thank you.
    You're right of course. My appendix is a great example!
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

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    Did you not read the post???
    Yes, which is why I quoted it and asked.

    Policemen and firemen can't refuse to assist someone for any reason, can they? If the answer is "no, they can't", then they can't refuse for religious reasons either....can they?
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

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    You went into depth creating that huge strawman there. No appointments were missed or rescheduled. The child had their scheduled appointment and could have scheduled more, but the parents chose to go to another peds group for the future.
    For this child, that is true. But the possibility easily existed that it could lead to them having to reschedule. It is a very likely possibility in some areas too.

    In cities, the average doctor wait-time is 18.5 days - The Washington Post

    This means if a child is turned away due to having gay parents, especially like this one was but where there is not a willing or more likely free/able partner in the practice to see the baby, despite having set up the appointments ahead of time, the parents could be delayed several weeks in getting an appointment from a doctor who can and will see their child for their well baby checkups.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    You're right of course. My appendix is a great example!
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    Please stop. Your ignorance is embarrassing.

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Doesn't matter if it did happen, only that when we allow such policies that allow for people to discriminate, to reject patients solely on the basis of something like "I don't approve of the parents'", it can lead to the very thing I am talking about. And we have seen it happen in other issues.
    Yes it does. The sky isn't falling and no need to run around screaming it is.

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Doesn't at all answer the question:
    Gay Man Dies Day After Michigan Law Allows EMTs To Refuse Treatment to Gay People - Big American News
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Who says they would have to die to cause hardships for the person, their loved ones? What if their causing a delay in the refusal to see the patient leads to complications? What if that delay leads to requiring more extensive stay in a hospital, more bills? What if it causes people to not get the early diagnosis that would improve their chances?

    Even with just these checkups, refusal of service could lead to someone having to either a) drive far out of their way to see a doctor that will take them as a patient only due to something like their sexuality or their parents' sexuality, or b) go outside their insurance network for a doctor that will see them, accept them, not due to the doctor having too many clients or not specializing in what they need, but rather only out of bigotry. Why shouldn't someone be compensated for discrimination that causes them measurable hardship?
    Gay Man Dies Day After Michigan Law Allows EMTs To Refuse Treatment to Gay People - Big American News
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yes it does. The sky isn't falling and no need to run around screaming it is.
    No it doesn't. This could just as easily be used by doctors to refuse to see Jews, black people, white people, atheist, Christians, etc. but only for these types of appointments.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    For this child, that is true. But the possibility easily existed that it could lead to them having to reschedule. It is a very likely possibility in some areas too.

    In cities, the average doctor wait-time is 18.5 days - The Washington Post

    This means if a child is turned away due to having gay parents, especially like this one was but where there is not a willing or more likely free/able partner in the practice to see the baby, despite having set up the appointments ahead of time, the parents could be delayed several weeks in getting an appointment from a doctor who can and will see their child for their well baby checkups.
    Again with the hypotheticals.

    This doctor ensured that the baby would be seen by her partner on the same day she was supposed to see the baby. What does that have to do with waiting 2 months to get an appointment with your family doctor in Boston?
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