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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I do have news for some of you all. All doctors are not nice people. All of them don't care much about their patients. Many of them are cold uncaring individuals that are in it for the money only.
    As a matter of fact, most doctors are pretty much jerk offs that spent alittle longer in college than most.
    Yeah, that's not news. This one is not cold and uncaring, though. She comes off as an emotional basket case and I for one would remove any child of mine from her care at once. How would you feel about some pilot who decided he can't possibly fly the plane because there's a fag baby on board? Would you be comfortable flying with this loon ever again? I sure as hell wouldn't.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Another doctor did see the patient, and she knew that her partner was seeing the patient.
    And if her partner had said "no, I feel the same as you do"? That is the point.

    I'm not calling for anything to be legally done to this doctor, but I think it is very important that other people are aware of her religion based bigotry. I also think there should be laws protecting people from it because of the scenarios where there isn't a backup available.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    IOW, it's OK to force a doctor to do something against their beliefs, but only when you think it's OK.

    But it's wrong for others to do so if they disagree with you.
    Isn't that what government is about, forcing people to do stuff they don't want to do because someone else thinks they should? I was asked for an opinion and I gave it and disagreement on this forum is expected.

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    Re: Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientat

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    And how does that change anything?
    It was not due to her really feeling bad about turning them away. In all likelihood, it was due to her losing patients who learned about the situation. Why couldn't she have apologized that day?
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    If I were gay I wouldn't be seeking treatment, service or anything from anyone that looked down upon me, or whispered as I walked by. I understand that the government can legislate laws that provide a legal remedy for discrimination, but it cannot legislate acceptance or tolerance, and the distinction is one really worth noting. Why would you want to have anything done by someone that thinks (For whatever reason or motive) you're dirty and icky, or whatever, why? Are these homosexuals under some delusion that because the government says so, that people all of a sudden will begin accepting them? No, of course not, so why bother? According to a great many here, the public is coming around to gays, and their lifestyle choices, so then it follows that there are many, many other options for any particular service; service that would be performed by someone more open and tolerant, even accepting. That's where I do business if I'm gay. I don't expect someone to just automatically like me..


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    Re: Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientat

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    There isn't a Christian religion that opposes gay marriage?
    who said that?
    also youll have to be more specific with the word oppose and marriage . . . .
    to give an answer that might help you, yes some Christians will not conduct a religious marriage for gays based on their religious beliefs?
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    Re: Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientat

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    There isn't a Christian religion that opposes gay marriage?
    There are Christian religions that oppose interracial and interfaith marriages. Do they get the same ability to deny checkups to a child that has mixed faith or mixed parents? What about a Christian doctor who refuses to see children of unwed mothers?
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    Re: Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    First do no harm. I have no problem with a bakery withholding a cake based on religious belief. But medical care is a whole nother ballgame. You cant refuse medical care based on sexual orientation.
    I have a problem with anyone who takes on the responsibility to serve the public in any shape or form to turn around and start discriminating. There are countless ways by which any profession or professional can practice and remain true to what they believe and not affect others. Let them do so. It it their right and I would defend that anytime, but they can't have their cake and eat it too.

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    Re: Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientat

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    No, not at all. If anything I am completely against such things. I do however expect people who freely take on the responsibility to serve others to do so.
    She served the baby by having her partner see the baby. Which was probably a better experience for the parents as well. Why would they want to have a doctor see their baby who refuses to see them the same way a hetero couple is seen?
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Yeah, that's not news. This one is not cold and uncaring, though. She comes off as an emotional basket case and I for one would remove any child of mine from her care at once. How would you feel about some pilot who decided he can't possibly fly the plane because there's a fag baby on board? Would you be comfortable flying with this loon ever again? I sure as hell wouldn't.
    Well seeing as there is no "fag baby" in this story. I don't care.

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