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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    We aren't talking about people getting married. We're talking about a baby being seen by another doctor in a group practice. This isn't a big deal. And I don't care what the doctor thinks about gay people any more than I care about what the doctor thinks about lamb kabobs, American Idol or the weather. The reason you take a baby to a doctor, as you well know, is to get the baby care. This baby got care.
    The baby got care because another doctor had compassion. That other doctor could just as easily have been booked for the day and not able to see the baby. Luck basically worked to ensure the child was seen on the day of her appointment. Luck that should not have come into play because the doctor the baby was scheduled to see only refused based on the relationship of the parents and her disapproval of that relationship.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Yes, because they are ignorant morons, especially in light of ample evidence to the contrary.
    There is no evidence to the contrary.

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    We aren't talking about people getting married. We're talking about a baby being seen by another doctor in a group practice. This isn't a big deal. And I don't care what the doctor thinks about gay people any more than I care about what the doctor thinks about lamb kabobs, American Idol or the weather. The reason you take a baby to a doctor, as you well know, is to get the baby care. This baby got care.
    I think the point is though, what gives this doctor the authority to decide what is and isn't OK for other people? Can a Jewish or Muslim doctor refuse to treat someone because they ate bad pork? Does this mean that an atheist doctor can refuse to care for someone if their parents believe in God? Can a Democrat doctor refuse a Republican patient?

    Regardless of this doctor's legal rights, what kind of a POS says "I don't approve of your parents' lifestyle, therefore no medicine for you?"


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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The baby got care because another doctor had compassion. That other doctor could just as easily have been booked for the day and not able to see the baby. Luck basically worked to ensure the child was seen on the day of her appointment. Luck that should not have come into play because the doctor the baby was scheduled to see only refused based on the relationship of the parents and her disapproval of that relationship.
    Again, that's a hypothetical. Irrelevant. The baby was seen by another doctor. The baby is fine. The doctor who didn't see the baby will be judged by her clients and potential clients. I stopped seeing my obstetrician in 1999 because he was at the center of an abortion controversy. That was my choice. Her patients have a choice, and the other doctors in her practice have a choice to stay or go. People who want to boycott her will boycott her. And nobody got hurt by her personal beliefs on gay couples.
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Fair enough, if you alienate many patients or customers there won't be many left to keep you in business.

    I just don't really understand what an innocent baby that has nothing to do or no say in their parents situation has to suffer, not in this case but more a general statement.
    How, exactly, did this infant suffer?

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    How, exactly, did this infant suffer?
    "not in this case"


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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I think the point is though, what gives this doctor the authority to decide what is and isn't OK for other people? Can a Jewish or Muslim doctor refuse to treat someone because they ate bad pork? Does this mean that an atheist doctor can refuse to care for someone if their parents believe in God? Can a Democrat doctor refuse a Republican patient?

    Regardless of this doctor's legal rights, what kind of a POS says "I don't approve of your parents' lifestyle, therefore no medicine for you?"
    What gives anyone the right to think anything, rocket? What gives you the right to think boys shouldn't wear pink, and old people shouldn't have big dogs? Nothing, really.

    As far as a Jewish doctor refusing to see someone because he ate bad pork...sure, why not, if another doctor can see the person and the patient gets the care he needs? As far as a Democratic doctor refusing to treat a uber right wing conservative politician he abhors, sure, why not, as long as there is another doctor who can see the patient and he gets the care he needs? Do we pick doctors based on their personal lifestyle choices, or do we pick them to take care of us?
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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    There are many version of the oath, I referenced a translation of the original. Irrelevant to my response.
    Actually it is relevant because you included something that is not part of the oath.

    I draw the line at emergency treatment. A physician should not deny emergency treatment to anyone.
    Ok. Why? If we are to endorse religion as a basis for discrimination, why discriminate against emergency physicians? They are entitled to their freedom to believe as much as any other man? On the other side of the spectrum I bet that there are people who would not want to be treated by doctors who are not of the same faith, so there is a need for doctors of faith.

    If a physician didn't want to treat me because they don't feel comfortable around men, that is their business, but if they don't treat me in an emergency, I would be pissed at that.
    I will give you a better one. Lets assume that your take on emergency doctors is OK, although I clearly do not agree and now you are in a situation, say an accident and I wish you no harm, and you need an emergency tracheotomy, something just about any doctor can do and often enough patients die without it. Now a general practitioner happens to pass by, asses the situation and then suddenly decides that you are not to his or her liking...

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    Re: Bigotry is well and alive even among doctors.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm not posting about discrimination and bigotry.
    Of course you are. The story in as much as you deny it IS about bigotry and discrimination and you seem to be an apologist for it.
    At least show enough integrity to own it.

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    Re: Michigan lesbian couple says pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientat

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    To be quite honest this did surprise me. For some reason I thought that educated people can and would rise above such blatant bigotry, but I guess that low life imbeciles exist in every walk of life.
    This doctor refused to treat an infant because the parents are gay.
    Lesbian couple says Michigan pediatrician denied baby care due to sexual orientation | 7online.com
    Personally, I believe this is wrong on the part of the doctor - equally as wrong as doctors in the 80s who initially refused to see or treat HIV/AIDS patients due to prejudice. I would hope that the governing body that disciplines medical practitioners in this jurisdiction will remind this doctor of his oath and responsibilities.

    That said, I do find this comment from the article, attributed to one of the mom's, to be interesting:

    "As far as we know, Bay doesn't have a sexual orientation yet so I'm not really sure what that
    matters," Jami Contreras said.


    From my limited knowledge of the subject matter, it is now scientifically believed that we are all born with a sexual orientation and it's not something that is "acquired" environmentally. This lesbian woman, inadvertently, is giving ammunition to those who believe that two gay parents can "turn" a child gay.
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