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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh for Pete's sake. Did you notice that Muslim community leaders, law abiding citizens were being addressed as well. Yeah, too many people love conflict and provocation. By the way, by the end of the Bush administration, it was learned to be not wise either, and the language you'd like to hear coming from Obama, was expunged from the BA vocabulary!!


    Bush administration document: "Never use the term 'jihadist.' " A May 2008 UPI article stated: "U.S. officials are being advised in internal government documents to avoid referring publicly to al-Qaida and other terrorist groups as Islamic or Muslim, and not to use terms like jihad or mujahedin, which 'unintentionally legitimize' terrorism." The document discourages the use of "ill-defined and offensive terminology," such as " 'Islamo-fascism,' which are considered offensive by many Muslims." The document from the National Counterterrorism Center goes on to state: "[N]ever use the terms 'jihadist' or 'mujahideen' in conversation to describe the terrorists. A mujahed, a holy warrior, is a positive characterization in the context of a just war. In Arabic, jihad means 'striving in the path of God' and is used in many contexts beyond warfare. Calling our enemies jihadis and their movement a global jihad unintentionally legitimizes their actions."
    The logic is absurd. Calling someone a murderer does not legitimize murder.

    If you see the president's job as defending and legitimizing the concept of "Holy warrior" - and then claiming ISIS aren't - what is it? I see NO reason or authority for the President to legitimize "Holy Islamic warrior" in ANY context.

    "Crusader" has many positive meanings too, doesn't it? Crusading for justice, for civil rights, and, historically, to fight invading Muslim armies. The President had no problem using that word as a generic evil, did he?

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The logic is absurd. Calling someone a murderer does not legitimize murder.

    If you see the president's job as defending and legitimizing the concept of "Holy warrior" - and then claiming ISIS aren't - what is it? I see NO reason or authority for the President to legitimize "Holy Islamic warrior" in ANY context.

    "Crusader" has many positive meanings too, doesn't it? Crusading for justice, for civil rights, and, historically, to fight invading Muslim armies. The President had no problem using that word as a generic evil, did he?
    I have no idea what that jumbled mess means. Are you denying that there came a time during the Bush administration that they quit using the language that you want Obama to use, hmm?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Now you claim you are a Bush supporter and since Bush did something similar then it is right for Obama to do it too. That's your point, right?
    No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm telling you and the rest of the DP hypocritical crowd on this to show some consistency. If your going to condemn Obama on this, fine, then condemn Bush too!!!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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