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Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

iguanaman said:
Just because you want to give ISIS what it wants, worldwide recognition that it is Islam's true representative and is fighting a muslim holy war against the west, does not mean Obama will go along with it. You can praise ISIS to the rooftops for their "religious purity" if you want but sane people will recognize them for the thugs and criminals they are.
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For those who have not figured it out, THEY ARE ISLAMS TRUE REPRESENTATIVES. They are doing exactly what the Koran tells them to do in order to usher in the last Imam. Just as the Bible tells Christians to preach in the name of Christ, they are killing in the name of Islam. It's a very simple thing to understand. Those who reject the idea that they are following the Koran are blind and being mislead.
 
Tettsuo said:
Is Christianity at war with equality because they don't believe in same sex marriage?

Is Christianity at war with a woman's right to choose because they don't believe in abortion?

Was Christianity at war with American blacks and other Americans of color as it was Christianity was used to legitimize slavery and segregation?


I'd say no. I'd say it just a bunch of asshats that are twisting religion to get motive people to empower them. The same applies to ISIS.
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1. I'm sure God had that mine when he designed reproduction.

2. I'm sure God is fine with killing his babies.

3. I'm sure God detested slavery in all parts of the world, and still does as ISIS and other militant factions continue to force people, including children, into slavery to this day.

ISIS shares the beliefs of hundreds of millions of Muslims about building a caliphate to expedite the last Imam. ISIS is just willing to do it with the most extreme measures, even more extreme than al-Quaida, Hamas, Hezbollah, Boka Horam, Muslim Brotherhood, etc. That's what Islam teaches. They really don't have to "twist" anything, it's right there in the Koran.
 
Erod said:
1. I'm sure God had that mine when he designed reproduction.

2. I'm sure God is fine with killing his babies.

3. I'm sure God detested slavery in all parts of the world, and still does as ISIS and other militant factions continue to force people, including children, into slavery to this day.

ISIS shares the beliefs of hundreds of millions of Muslims about building a caliphate to expedite the last Imam. ISIS is just willing to do it with the most extreme measures, even more extreme than al-Quaida, Hamas, Hezbollah, Boka Horam, Muslim Brotherhood, etc. That's what Islam teaches. They really don't have to "twist" anything, it's right there in the Koran.
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Thank you. Why is that so hard for some to accept?
 
Erod said:
1. I'm sure God had that mine when he designed reproduction.

2. I'm sure God is fine with killing his babies.

3. I'm sure God detested slavery in all parts of the world, and still does as ISIS and other militant factions continue to force people, including children, into slavery to this day.

ISIS shares the beliefs of hundreds of millions of Muslims about building a caliphate to expedite the last Imam. ISIS is just willing to do it with the most extreme measures, even more extreme than al-Quaida, Hamas, Hezbollah, Boka Horam, Muslim Brotherhood, etc. That's what Islam teaches. They really don't have to "twist" anything, it's right there in the Koran.
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I will guarantee beyond the shadow of a doubt that you have not read the Koran.
 
Kobie said:
I will guarantee beyond the shadow of a doubt that you have not read the Koran.
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I believe that it is you who has never read it.

"Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews. Book 041, Number 6985: Sahih Muslim:"
 
Kobie said:
I will guarantee beyond the shadow of a doubt that you have not read the Koran.
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Front to back, not on your life. But I've read enough, and unlike the troublesome aspects of the Old Testament, none of which Jesus taught, there isn't a rescinding within the Koran for the edicts against the killing of Jews (and Christians, by proxy).
 
Erod said:
Front to back, not on your life. But I've read enough, and unlike the troublesome aspects of the Old Testament, none of which Jesus taught, there isn't a rescinding within the Koran for the edicts against the killing of Jews (and Christians, by proxy).
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You're making too much sense now, man. People don't like that here.
 
chad1389 said:
You're making too much sense now, man. People don't like that here.
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It's like swimming with a bunch of piranhas here. Gay, atheist, Socialist piranhas, at that.
 
Erod said:
It's like swimming with a bunch of piranhas here. Gay, atheist, Socialist piranhas, at that.
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Makes you miss college, right?
 
Tettsuo said:
Is Christianity at war with equality because they don't believe in same sex marriage?

Is Christianity at war with a woman's right to choose because they don't believe in abortion?

Was Christianity at war with American blacks and other Americans of color as it was Christianity was used to legitimize slavery and segregation?


I'd say no. I'd say it just a bunch of asshats that are twisting religion to get motive people to empower them. The same applies to ISIS.
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If the Christians had jobs, none of this would have happened.
 
Erod said:
Front to back, not on your life. But I've read enough, and unlike the troublesome aspects of the Old Testament, none of which Jesus taught, there isn't a rescinding within the Koran for the edicts against the killing of Jews (and Christians, by proxy).
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From what I've gathered, if you don't hide behind a tree, you're okay. If you're not an Infidel, you're okay. If you not a Muslim, you're not okay. If you're not a Muslim and you hide behind a tree the possibilities for your manner of death are limitless. This can be expressed as a log function, I think. Has to do with the potential possibilities and the tree (and the log function as a result) are greater than most think.
 
Tettsuo said:
Is Christianity at war with equality because they don't believe in same sex marriage?

Is Christianity at war with a woman's right to choose because they don't believe in abortion?

Was Christianity at war with American blacks and other Americans of color as it was Christianity was used to legitimize slavery and segregation?


I'd say no. I'd say it just a bunch of asshats that are twisting religion to get motive people to empower them. The same applies to ISIS.
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Hi Tettsuo, does it stop many liberals from attacking Christianity? I'd say no. So, you sound like you want to have it both ways
 
j-mac said:
Hi Tettsuo, does it stop many liberals from attacking Christianity? I'd say no. So, you sound like you want to have it both ways
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Saying you don't agree with Christianity being used to basically block rights for others is not attacking Christianity, it's upholding the promise of America in the face of extremist.
 
Tettsuo said:
Saying you don't agree with Christianity being used to basically block rights for others is not attacking Christianity, it's upholding the promise of America in the face of extremist.
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So Muslims are okay with abortion, same sex marriage, homosexuality, sexual liberation, women's rights, etc.?
 
j-mac said:
"Anti-liberals"? Oh what a victim you are...:roll:
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Pretty much. Lots of liberals are perpetual victims, self-assured that people are out to get them because they are liberals, not because they hold ridiculous ideas.
 
Grant said:
So Muslims are okay with abortion, same sex marriage, homosexuality, sexual liberation, women's rights, etc.?
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Radical Islam = Radical Christianity
 
Peter King said:
This is what I do not understand, if people who want changes in the gun laws state that guns kill people, their opponents say that it is people who kill people (and not guns) they just happen to use guns.

Now here is Obama, he is saying it is that it is people who kill people (and they are using religion as an excuse), but his opponents now say that Obama is wrong and that it is religion who is killing people.

The weird thing is that the most vocal opponents of the pro-gun control people, are the same people who are blasting Obama for saying kinda the same thing they are using themselves to point out that the "guns kill people" comment is untrue.

So "guns kill people" is a lie but "religion kills people" is the truth? You cannot have it both ways IMHO.

Obama is right and the anti-gun control people are right. People kill people, guns and religion are just tools in their killing ways.
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Guns are not a philosophy, guns have no means of convincing people to resort to violence. Religion does. Religion is the reason that these people are acting the way they are. Religion is the purpose behind their actions. You cannot say the same for guns, you absolutely can say it for religion.

Not sure why so many people can't get this through their heads.
 
chad1389 said:
""Never use the terms 'jihadist' or 'mujahedin' ... to describe the terrorists," instructs the guide. "A mujahed, a holy warrior, is a positive characterization in the context of a just war. In Arabic, jihad means 'striving in the path of God' and is used in many contexts beyond warfare. Calling our enemies Jihadis and their movement a global Jihad unintentionally legitimizes their actions."

How clearly it states that calling a Jihad, or Holy Warrior, an "Islamic TERRORIST" as I stated, would piss Islamist off. It in no way "legitimizes actions." They are, in the eyes of Islam, HOLY WARRIORS. I never said Bush was right in not using the term. I said he did it as a way to stop offending as well. If you want to believe they no longer use the term because of "legitimizing" be my guest. Believe whatever you want. Funny how most can say Bush lied about everything, but but I guess not this, right?
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Ok, tell ya what. Pick any reason you wish to believe that Bush wasn't using jihad, Mujahideen, or Islamic terrorists. The point stands that IT WASNT BEING USED, and Obama isn't using it either.
 
Kobie said:
For it to be blasphemy, Obama would have to be Muslim himself.

We're not at war with Islam, and anyone who claims we are has a very simplistic view of world events.
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Or is an evangelical christian. They've been dying for a return to the crusades for quite some time. They see it as bringing us closer to their silly book's end of time. They're a silly group of people.
 
j-mac said:
Ok, and that, if true was wrong too. Still doesn't excuse Obama
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Whether you approve, or disapprove of expunging the language, is another matter. I'm just looking for consistency. You disapprove of both Bush and Obama doing it, your consistent and you pass the test, carry on.
 
US Conservative said:
This was a terror summit, after over a year of ISIS beheadings and he can't even say the words. What a lion of a President he is!
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G--damned disloyal liar of a president is more like it. No surprise to see his fellow America-resenting collectivists rushing to cover his backside.
 
chad1389 said:
Those who reject the idea that they are following the Koran are blind and being mislead.
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Either that, or some of them share President Pinocchio's disdain for the truth, and are lying to cover for him.
 
Tettsuo said:
Radical Islam = Radical Christianity
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Thank you!

There is both. I heard there was this thingy claiming to be Christian and who worship him, called "Westboro"...

And you know what, there is also radical Sikhism, the bastards killed around 350 people in the Air India bombing in the early 80's, the first act of international terror in north America.

And there is radical Hinduism as well.

There is not, though, radical Islamism...according to Obama.
 
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